SuperNationJock Agreed. ROTJ Vader-Luke scenes have a whole new appeal for me. The road between little Ani of TPM and Vader is at once too short and too long. "It is too late for me, son" "I must save you." "You already have, Luke. Tell your sister you were right about me." Those lines are so full of bittersweet regret. He has finally overcome his frailty, much too late for Obi-Wan, for the Jedi, for the countless others, for Padme. As Joseph Campbell said in The Hero With a Thousand Faces, "regret is illumination come too late."