AnaVader is Christ

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  1. Lord_Smith Jedi Youngling

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    The position he is in when he rises up on the table is meant to be the crucifix that is why they didnt have his arms down, instead they are up and look silly, he could have had them sideways, that would have been better.
  2. OBI-BEN-KENOBI Jedi Grand Master

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  3. Lord_Smith Jedi Youngling

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    How isn't he Christ, Christ was send down to die on Earth to restore the balance in the world, as it was evil.
  4. THEDEVILSITH Jedi Knight

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    He is the AntiChrist cuz hes Sidious's(the devil)son
  5. Darth-Seldon Force Ghost

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    I don't think you can assign him one figure.
    Anakin and Luke for that matter are the combinations of many heroes from eastern, and western mythology. There are univeral elements in both characters.

    It is important to keep in mind Joseph Campbell's Hero with A Thousand Faces. The book influenced Lucas and makes it clear that all myths share a common and universal story.

    Anakin isn't just Christ, there may be elements of Jesus in the character, but that isn't the sole inspiration.

    -Seldon
  6. ClonedEmperor Jedi Master

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    i can see the connection your making, except Christ never went evil and slaughtered thousands of people. And Christ was sent to bring an end to sins control, not to put good and evil into balance
  7. THEDEVILSITH Jedi Knight

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    Actually Maul is the Devils son
  8. Smuggler-of-Mos-Espa Jedi Youngling

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    No, Anakin isn't Jesus and Sidious isn't the Devil. These are two inspirations Lucas used, but they don't represent anything. You're letting your hopes eat your brain, again.
  9. THEDEVILSITH Jedi Knight

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    Also Christ knew what he had to do he could previsionize his death
  10. Darth-Seldon Force Ghost

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    There isn't one inspiration for any of the characters.

    They are all built on many archtypes.
    Luke, Leia, Han, Vader/Anakin, Sidious, Obi-Wan and others are all based on thousands of characters.

    -Seldon
  11. THEDEVILSITH Jedi Knight

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    Does anyone know if George Lucas is even Catholic...
  12. Darth-Seldon Force Ghost

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    I don't believe he is.
    However all Christians believe in Jesus, so him being Roman Catholic shouldn't make a difference.
    I do believe he is Christian.

    -Seldon
  13. Lord_Smith Jedi Youngling

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    Anakin can see other people deaths. I don't see how he is the anti-christ though, you don't know (i apologise for having to say this) what Jesus did, he could have been bad, how is he SIdious son, when his mum said there was no dad. How is Maul the devils son?
  14. THEDEVILSITH Jedi Knight

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    Lucas is a Lutheran so yes,he is a christian,but has a different belief on christ cuz hes a lutheran
  15. Genrader Jedi Knight

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    I wouldn't technically call him Christ, since he fell into evil and Christ didn't...but...I would say he is sort of like Jesus in a lot of ways since he brings balance/saves the world, and the main thing: born of a virgin.
  16. Darth-Seldon Force Ghost

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    There are minor differences between the Christian faiths over the issue of the view of Jesus. He is about the same in all their books. The differences are in other areas and not that so much.

    We have to acknoweledge that there is no direct connection between Anakin in Christ, or any other Star Wars figure with any other biblical character. There are elements of so many characters in Anakin, that he isn't dominated by any one set character.

    -Seldon
  17. severian28 Force Ghost

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    He has messianic symbolism, but he is definetly not a direct reference to Christ. Christ does not suucumb to the demons that tempt him, Anakin does.
  18. Lord_Smith Jedi Youngling

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    Jesus was tempted fo fall to evil in the desert, Palpatine is the Devil in that sense.
  19. Darth-Seldon Force Ghost

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    He is of a virgin birth.
    And is treated as the Messiah of the Jedi.

    This much is true.
    However Lucas weaves many religious motifs into the films especially from eastern religion. Anakin may begin as Christ, but he ends up having a radical Jihad against the Jedi which leads to his path as Darth Vader.

    -Seldon
    Edit: However Jesus never fell and Anakin did. The connection ends there.
  20. Lord_Smith Jedi Youngling

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    Lucas may have felt that way to make the film culutary diverse so as to appeal to all, but I still believe in the Christ theory, just he fell to evil, Jesus didn't.
  21. Genrader Jedi Knight

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    Er, Seldon, not really a jihad, as there are only two Sith...the point of jihad isn't to wipe out everyone else, but in defense of Islam or in a war to try to kill and/or convert the infidels..anyway.

    I'd say Anakin is closest to Christ, but he failed. Luke is the one who technically succeeds, thus making Anakin succeed. I'd have to say the Anakin/Luke thing is really strange.

    Remember that in the Bible Jesus refers to himself as the last/second Adam, essentially he meant he was of God's direct lineage and he was going to succeed where Adam failed.

    Anakin = Adam, in a sense, he was supposed to be a great dude and all, but failed and succumed to the Dark Side. Jesus, or Luke, resisted the temptation.

    The Bible, as well as other religions, ties in well with everything. I really would say that Christianity is the closest, though.
  22. Darth-Seldon Force Ghost

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    That is a huge difference between them.
    The fact is that Star Wars is universal, and it doesn't have one sole source. It is more complex than that.

    -Seldon
  23. OBI-BEN-KENOBI Jedi Grand Master

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    How isn't he Christ, Christ was send down to die on Earth to restore the balance in the world, as it was evil.

    Unless Jesus went ona 25 year spree of killing all of his friends and loved ones, I see no connection. He doesn't get resseurected, because he doesn't die. He has no sins to repent for but his own.

    EDIT: SW is SW. Religion is religion. There doesn't always have to be a connection.

    BTW: Please, for the love of SW, post in here before creating any more threads.
  24. ThrawnRocks Force Ghost

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    The main similarities are the virgin birth, and the fact that both thier fathers are considered to be divine beings. There undoubtabley parts of Anakin influenced by Jesus, but not only Jesus.
  25. Lord_Smith Jedi Youngling

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    Genrader, that was excelently put, I realy do credit you on an class reply.
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