true but the question there is... while the TCW Mortis model had a trinity of balance, creation and destruction... the Abelothian model of Apocalypse has 4 beings with balance too counterchecked by chaos. so the question is, is Abeloth right and it needs 4? or is TCW right and it needs just 3. If Abeloth is right, she needs to be balanced out. If she is wrong, she does not need it at all and all is fine in the post-ROTJ galaxy far far away with balance between Jedi and Sith replacing balance between Son and Daughter, and the entire galaxy and Force being FATHER's role then. Abeloth is an aberration that is not needed and not unbalancing the galaxy, merely stirring Jedi and Sith to have fun with her from time to time. philosophically, both models have some value and interesting consequences. while the trinity model is based on the principle that harmony is the natural state and needs no counterbalance by chaos, the other model is based on the trinity model but expanding it by neverending cycles of chaos and harmony reigning over destruction and creation. in a way it makes sense since we do know that Son and Daughter fought each other as well as united in harmony to defeat Abeloth or other threats. so there are some cycles of them opposed and united. in the 4 Ones model, Harmony and Chaos always stay separated. In the Trinity model, that is not so! Harmony and Chaos are one and the same, namely Balance as in Father. in the end one could even say that Father and Abeloth serve the same role! by unifying both models, depending if creation of destruction was on the advance, Father/Balance countered it by furthering creation, and vice versa. Mortis eternal cycles of day and night, life and decay, etc. So in a way, Father brought not just harmony but also chaos and war, when creation weighed more than destruction in the galaxy. so, does Abeloth only bring chaos and not balance, unlike Father who did both? because if Abeloth wants to be like the Father and also brings balance and not just chaos.. she is not as wrong as one might guess. but given her track record, she is pure chaos.