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Animation Test : Terminator Line

Discussion in 'Fan Films, Fan Audio & SciFi 3D' started by Jedi_Cougar, Oct 12, 2002.

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  1. Jedi_Cougar

    Jedi_Cougar Jedi Youngling star 3

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    Here is an animation I put together this morning. I think it turned out pretty well for my skill level.

    [link=http://www.ryanfarnes.com/starwars/3d/terminator_line.mov]Download[/link] (right click to "save as")
    Quicktime 30sec 5mb


    Would enjoy you guys' feedback. I know the planet isn't glowing and all, but I am still just a novice with this 3d Animation. ;)
     
  2. AWB1989

    AWB1989 Jedi Master star 5

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    That's pretty good. The only thing I'd say to work on is a planetary glow, but since you said you can't do that yet, then it's a good job!

    Aaron
     
  3. corranhornjje

    corranhornjje Jedi Youngling star 2

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    I'd like to see a little more brightness from the sun. I hate to say the word but flare. Just a little glare to make it seem more realistic. Clouds on the planet will make it much more relistic as well. The city lights shouldn't illuminiate the night side so much. I could imagine it a little darker but light enough so you coud tell that it was the planet and not just stars.

    The big yellow flare doesn't look good IMHO. I do see a small blue flare that goes across Saudi. I'd like to see more streaking flares that go out from the sun in a circle, or a just a big spotlight in the eyes effect.

    I'll tell you right now that I'm still learning the basics as well and you've done a great job so far. I see room for improvement and I'm sure you'll learn some new tricks tweaking this. Good job.
     
  4. Macho

    Macho Jedi Padawan star 4

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    where are the clouds? looks pretty good so far
     
  5. tumblemoster

    tumblemoster Jedi Padawan star 4

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    The camera move great, and the sound effects are really cool. Two things I noticed:

    1. I'm pretty sure your bump map is backwards. It appears that the oceans are the higher part of the bump, and the land is depressed into it. Invert your bump map, and turn it down a bit. From space you would not be able to make out the contours, except perhaps in the mountains.
    2. Your planet is solid. It needs hazing up in some way. Perhaps desaturate the color map a little, or add another spherical layer with some white transparency and clouds.

    Nice work so far!

    -tm
     
  6. WhisperingDeath

    WhisperingDeath Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Grab some clouds, kill the yellow lens flare, figure out why city lights can be seen from space and tell me what this has to do with a 'Terminator Line' and you will be set ;)
     
  7. tumblemoster

    tumblemoster Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Eh, city lights can be seen from space...

    -tm
     
  8. WhisperingDeath

    WhisperingDeath Jedi Padawan star 4

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    You are kidding me!

    I have NEVER seen pictures of the earth with that kind of light eminating from its surfacce.
     
  9. tumblemoster

    tumblemoster Jedi Padawan star 4

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    I imagine you haven't... Have you ever tried to take a quick snapshot of the night sky? You won't see any stars in your photo... Ever notice there aren't any stars in the Moon landing films?

    You need long exposure to photograph Earth's dark side from space (and see anything, that is). Since the shuttle orbits the Earth every 90 minutes or so, they aren't in one spot long enough to photograph dim lights on an otherwise dark planet. The astronauts see them, however.

    -tm

     
  10. vanpuyer8

    vanpuyer8 Jedi Youngling star 3

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    i like it. But one thing.. the lens flare leaves to fastIMO
     
  11. DarthMike3

    DarthMike3 Jedi Youngling star 1

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    ok, it's driving me crazy, Where does "Terminator Line" come into play?
     
  12. Npoz1

    Npoz1 Jedi Youngling star 1

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    You can, indeed, see the earths light from space. My physics teacher has a poster in his room of the world at night. It's really cool. Check this out:
    http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/image/0011/earthlights2_dmsp_big.jpg
     
  13. WhisperingDeath

    WhisperingDeath Jedi Padawan star 4

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    That has to be doctored.
     
  14. corranhornjje

    corranhornjje Jedi Youngling star 2

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    Or it could be from a geosyncronous (big word that I have difficulty spelling) satellite taking many stills and averaging them all together.
     
  15. Jedi_Cougar

    Jedi_Cougar Jedi Youngling star 3

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    I actually wasn't going for a completely realistic animation. I realize that the city lights are not visible from space like that and that the flare could use some work as well as more screen time.

    I don't even know what a bump map is, all I did was texture a sphere with an image of the earth and I chose to use the one without clouds because it looked cooler. But I could mask the cloud image that NASA has in some areas to create more realism. That is actually how I did the whole surface changing from night to day, I took one whole image with the city lights and masked it onto the whole image of earth in daytime without clouds.

    The "terminator line" is the line at which night ends and day begins.

    Thanks for your comments. I think that I will now try to create a few things to make this animation more realistic.
     
  16. Pixelito

    Pixelito Jedi Padawan star 4

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    you need a layer of clouds... just make a sphere with a transparency and bump map, and make it a smidgen bigger (for example: if the diameter of your planet is 100 units, the cloud layer diameter should be something like 100.5 units.)
     
  17. Macho

    Macho Jedi Padawan star 4

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    I don't even know what a bump map is a bump map is a texture which makes an object look like is bumpy! like for a brickwall it makes the bricks stick out
     
  18. Ptx

    Ptx Jedi Padawan star 4

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    That picture of earth is amazing, but why is California so dark?

    Pete
     
  19. Jedi_Cougar

    Jedi_Cougar Jedi Youngling star 3

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    Well, perhaps I will learn how to use the bump map thing in blender.

    And I don't know why California is dark...just the way it came in the NASA texture. You should check out the url to that Blue Marble group. They have some really cool earth textures in high resolutions. They actually came to my college last year and did a HD Projector presentation with all of the animations they've done using their data of the earth that has been entirely scanned by satellites or the shuttle, can't remember which. Anyway, they can make animations (topographical if they want) of anywhere in earth. It was amazing in High Definition. Everyone should have a HD Projector in their home. :D
     
  20. Pixelito

    Pixelito Jedi Padawan star 4

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    you'll need to find a releif shaded map of the states, preferable with white as high and black as low (gray as no change).
     
  21. DarthMoves

    DarthMoves Jedi Youngling star 2

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    I like it. Your stars move too fast though and the are too abundant.

     
  22. PadawanNick

    PadawanNick Jedi Master star 4

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    On the lights from space issue:
    [link=http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap001127.html]This page[/link] gives you even more detail and interactivity.

    Have fun!
     
  23. Jedi_Cougar

    Jedi_Cougar Jedi Youngling star 3

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    Hehe, I don't want to go overboard, but thanks for the tip.
     
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