ST All Officially Confirmed INFO HERE (see last page)

I hate to break it to you guys, but Star Wars is meant to be child friendly. It will not mature just because you have. Deal with it, thank you.

 

^Exactly

 

Star Wars has the potential to target more than just kids. What once was will not necessarily always be.

 

Star Wars has been incredibly successful as is. Disney won't "fix what ain't broke."

 

Especially since Eisner won't be any where NEAR SW. Could you imagine?!?!?

 

SW has always found a way to appeal to kids AND to adults. That is a big part of what attracted Disney when Lucas decided to sell, I'm sure. Plus, SW does not need to do anything to cater to modern (read "current") tastes. It has a timeless appeal that exists independent of trends.

 

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A 'demonic' supervillian with absolutely no back story (character development in the film) and about two speaking lines. They do a better job of exploring the dark side in the video games for christ sake (something Disney should take note of). The Vader back story simply made him look more pathetic than anything and about the only back story we get on the emperor in the films was his conversation with Anakin during that theater light show thing (concerning cheating death). The killing off of the Jedi was a rather tame affair as well...Again, we don't need a Texas Chain Saw Massacre style film I'd simply like to see the new films be marketed more to an adult crowd as most of the fans are adults now. It'll eventually happen, perhaps not with the episode 7 but it will happen.

 

Again, SW has always found a way to appeal to kids AND to adults. That won't change. There are plenty of kid SW fans these days too.

 

It's only 2012, what do you expect?

 

Ya Lucas isnt in charge anymore and yes thats why he picked Disney (other than the $$). Concerning my comment that Lucas hadnt kept up with the times lets use an example- compare the original Batman TV series staring Adam West to the "The Dark night" with Heath Leger. It's not just the fans who have matured society at large has a different more complex view on good and evil and in turn film should reflect this cultural shift. Lucas was stuck in the 1970's/1980's. If their target audience is sheltered Christian children between the ages of 4 and 8 then so be it but Star Wars has more potential, it has the potential to grow with its fan base and our overall culture.

 

Kid movies/stories are a bit darker and more adult these days, looking at Snow White and such. That is what appeals to kids more these days, so I don't think we will get another TPM or ROTJ. I think it will be more along the lines of ROTS or ESB.

Although Lucas did say the SW movies were intended to appeal to kids, that doesn't mean that ALL of the SW material always will.

I don't understand why people ignore all of the public statements about the live action TV series from McCallum and Lucas; they clearly stated that those stories are NOT kid friendly (people act as if everything SW MUST be kid-friendly). That doesn't mean the ST won't be kid friendly, but the SW universe is not intended to be nor IMO will it remain so all of the time; there is plenty of room for movies and tv shows in the SW universe that are for adults. I really hope this is one of the turns that they take in projects aside from the ST (I bet they do).

 

How does a lack of back story for Maul make the fact that he's cut in half corny? How many lines did Bobba Fett have in the whole saga?

Regarding video games, you're welcome to your opinions on their superiority or otherwise, but they have nothing to do with the films.

Villains having interesting/unexpected back stories... I take it you'd have preferred infant Anakin to wear a black cape and go around choking people! Given that you were so upset with learning how Vader was once a sweet little boy, don't you think you'd have been disappointed to learn more about Palpatine?

Having Anakin/Vader committing infanticide and seeing the clone troopers turn on the Jedi was hardly tame. The scene with Organa screaming when he sees that child shot dead was as dark as anything ESB has to offer, in my opinion.

I'm not convinced that most fans today are adults, either. Most SW obsessives, yes, but fans in general? Even if that were the case, turning the ST into the re-imagined Battlestar Galactica would seem ...inappropriate for a family film. It would definitely be interesting to see it happen, but preferably as a reboot rather than a direct sequel.

Don't get me wrong, I can see how episode 1's tone can be corny, what with the droid army's cheesy one-liners, the clumsy rabbit, the pod race, the soap opera direction, etc, but the narrative content is as dark as any other SW film. If you look for corn in the OT, you're just as spoiled for choice. Only the emphasis differs.

I think it's likely that the tone of the new films will be regarded as darker and grittier than episode 1, but I bet they'll feature cute creatures, fluff, comic relief, one-liners, etc. They'll still be family films.

tl;dr: the prequels weren't that bad, the whole saga is corny and dark in equal measure, the new films probably wont resemble a Romero film.

 

Interesting, I'd not heard that the TV show was going to be more adult.

Obviously the EU can be more experimental, but I still maintain that the sequel films will probably not feature gore or porn.

 

No, I don't think the ST will feature Ron Jeremy as a Sith Lord. I think they will make some SW shows/movies that aren't geared to kids though.

Regarding content of live action TV series:
But when McCallum talked about whether the show could air on a network or on a cable channel, he dropped this bit: "Our biggest problem is that these stories are adult. I mean these are like Deadwood in space. [It's] so unlike anything you've ever associated with George before in relation to Star Wars. These aren't for kids. I mean, we hope they'll watch, but it's not being targeted at 8-to-9 year old boys. The situation we have is that each episode or if you put two hour long episodes together is bigger than any film we've ever done. It's on the Avatar level and we'll only have about $5-6 million we can spend on each episode."

 

Lots of aspiring filmmakers wish they could drop an "only" in front of a figure of $5 million.

 

Well, it's been two months since anything concrete has been announced. To this date, we've only gotten two official announcements regarding Episode VII:

Oct 30th, 2012: Announcement of the Disney/Lucasfilm acquisition, new movies, etc.
Nov 9th, 2012: Michael Arndt confirmed as screenwriter of Episode VII.

You may notice those announcements fell on a Tuesday and a Friday...something to think about.

 

Yeah, they still haven't confirmed or denied Kasdan and Kinberg.

KK said soon about the Director announcement back about the third week of December. I sure as Hell hope so. We're running out of things to discuss AND the rumormill sukcs rotten eggs. Seriously, all we have are Megan Fox and Darth Vader coming back?! WTF?!

 

This is turning into the thread where we make up "scoops". We need new info NOW! I think we're all getting stir crazy or something just pacing around waiting for another tidbit.

 

CW already has some wery adult episodes like the Umbara arc.

 

I really despise the "it's meant for kids!" argument.
It's like an excuse for something sucking or filling it with stupid unlikeable characters. I've watched plenty of films meant for kids that I have enjoyed immensely that have a ton of themes that only adults would get. A good film is a good film, and providing it doesn't have gratuitous sex scenes or heads exploding, it should be accessible to everyone.

Anything that Pixar has done is pretty well much the template on how to do this. The opening sequence in Up is one of the finest sequences in cinema history. Kids see the surface, a love story that sadly ends. Adults see the bigger picture , the abject tragedy of losing someone you have shared your life with, and the superficial way in which society expects you to deal with it just because you're old.

 

Star Wars is meant for all audience. It's for kids to fall in love with, and it's for adults to feel nostalgic and appreciate the story. It is not specific towards kids, like Jar-Jar Binks was.

If you want to look at a sequel that excelled at that, look to none other than Toy Story 3. That movie did an incredible job and making it kid friendly, but at times emotional and deep, and provided further character development for the main heroes, while having a worthy villain. This is why I'm happy Arndt is writing Episode VII, he wrote Toy Story 3.

 

Hmm, darkness and moral ambiguity? The OT was about a farm boy who saves the universe. The PT was about a child slave who grows up and helps destroy the universe.

Scene to scene grit and grim, though, that's not happening.

 

Fear not! This is but the calm before the storm. Soon it will be difficult to tell truth from lies and we will all be confused!

 

I. NEED. STAR WARS. NEWS. NOW!