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Oceania Anybody else think Grand Admiral Thrawn is so damn awesome?

Discussion in 'Oceania Discussion Boards' started by Syndic_Hart, Oct 25, 2004.

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  1. JediMasterKieca

    JediMasterKieca Jedi Master star 4

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    Recollections of history are often inconsistent, to the point of being down right contradictory at times, all throug the various histories recorded throughout different countries in our world (though admittedly, science is starting to remedy that via new forms of collecting evidence).

    That's the way I look at EU and the movies, I suppose. :)

    They might not be consistent with the films but I still get completely sucked into them because of the universe that has already been established.
    I love staying up all night reading cos you can't put a book down, even if it is considered to be dodgy. :)


    Edit: I can spell. Really I can.
     
  2. HawkNC

    HawkNC Former RSA: Oceania star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I love staying up all night reading cos you can't put a book down, even if it is considered to be dodgy.


    So very true. I'm up to the last book in the NJO (finally), and I've enjoyed most of them (Dark Journey was the spawn of a million J/K/J fanfics, for which I will never forgive it). I know it gets a lot of bad credit, but for me, it's still Star Wars, and I have a hard time putting any of the NJO books down until they're finished.

    edit: stupid markups
    edit again: argh, markups won't recognise the closing tag, fer cryin' out loud...
     
  3. Sith Magician

    Sith Magician Jedi Master star 5

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    I read the first two novels of NJO and realised that you could exchange the Republic for Trek's Federation, and the main cast of the NJO with any crew from any Trek series and they wouldn't have to change too much to make it work.

    Add to this the utter butchering of my favourite Star Wars character, and you have a series that, imo, would struggle to make a decent series of Trek books.

    Zahn was the best, and they should have made much more use of him.

    As for the contunity errors, what annoys me is that after LFL insisted on certain storylines being avoided (presumably for continuity reasons) George just went like a bulldozer in a china shop through the EU anyway. And I use the term bulldozer advisedly: he didn't completely demolish the EU universe. He just cut a swathe through it so the inconsistencies were there glaring out at one another.

    Well, as a writer yourself, I'm sure you can apreciate getting halfway through something, hitting on another idea and adding that into what you're doing, maybe or maybe not altering your original idea in the first place.

    Given how many people actually see the films, the people who read the books are a small percentage. The ones who even bother to keep track of tiny inconstistincies across several books or films are smaller still. Lucas is just catering for the larger demographic by putting his films first and not bothering to worry about differences between the films and the books. he's even gone so far as to say he doesn't read them anyway, and they're a seperate universe to the movies.
     
  4. Ender Sai

    Ender Sai Chosen One star 10

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    I believe that Lucas said he read and enjoyed Dork Empire... :eek:

    E_S
     
  5. Sith Magician

    Sith Magician Jedi Master star 5

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    He even gave it out as gifts to employees, and commented that had the saga continued, it would have been fairly close to that.

    But that's one story in a massive catalogue of stories, most of which should never have seen the light of day.
     
  6. Saintheart

    Saintheart Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    Well, as a writer yourself, I'm sure you can apreciate getting halfway through something, hitting on another idea and adding that into what you're doing, maybe or maybe not altering your original idea in the first place.

    Point; I suppose what rankles is the impression Uncle George seems to like to convey that he has this massive, overall masterplan that's been in production for thirty years, when in fact he chops and changes as much as any writer does. Eggzample: they're brother and sister! George routinely goes on record that this was his original plan right from ANH's final drafts, but does anybody really buy that? Scenes in ANH and ESB play significantly creepier in the light of that revelation. I think more likely he was just trying to come up with a blindside shot equal to Luke and Vader's little paternal crisis in ESB.

    Given how many people actually see the films, the people who read the books are a small percentage. The ones who even bother to keep track of tiny inconstistincies across several books or films are smaller still. Lucas is just catering for the larger demographic by putting his films first and not bothering to worry about differences between the films and the books. he's even gone so far as to say he doesn't read them anyway, and they're a seperate universe to the movies.

    *shrug* Fair enough. I'm just picking because of my profession ;)
     
  7. Sith Magician

    Sith Magician Jedi Master star 5

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    No, I don't buy the "Luke & Leia brother and sister from the beginning" thing, mainly because he has already said in an interview that the original idea, had he continued on from RotJ, would have been a story arc that would have luke trying to conquer the dark side from within, and his long lost sister being the one to bring him back, and he said that this sister was the other that yoda spoke of.

    So at least up until after the release of Empire, he didn't have Luke & Leia being brother and sister, he was just fortunate that her being adopted didn't contradict anthing in the previous two films.
     
  8. Detonating-Rabbit

    Detonating-Rabbit Jedi Knight star 5

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    Yes...apparently there is a rather dubious scene between Luke and Liea in 'The Splinter of Mind's Eye'...or whatever it was called. :p
     
  9. Protege-of-Thrawn

    Protege-of-Thrawn Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Who was Grand Admiral Thrawn? :confused:
     
  10. Sith Magician

    Sith Magician Jedi Master star 5

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    Some blue guy in a white costume, so quite possibly a Smurf...
     
  11. Kartanym

    Kartanym Jedi Knight star 6

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    papa smurf?

    :p
     
  12. Ender Sai

    Ender Sai Chosen One star 10

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    Whilst he certainly had Papa Smurf's wisdom, clearly he lacked red pants and a beard. Thus, C'Baoth is an insane clone of Papa Smurf.

    E_S
     
  13. Detonating-Rabbit

    Detonating-Rabbit Jedi Knight star 5

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    But he was human...and not Smurf...
     
  14. Ender Sai

    Ender Sai Chosen One star 10

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    He wasn't human, he was a Chiss.

    Which has precisely the same number of letters to it as "Smurf".

    However, I'm willing to concede Thrawn never stood "3 apples high" like a Smurf did.

    E_S
     
  15. PulsarSkate

    PulsarSkate Ex-Mod star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Hmmm...I dunno if Thrawn is hawt per say...but has anyone else thought about the fact that if Robbie Williams dyed his skin blue and his eyes red in his latest film clip where he is wearing an admirals uniform he could quite possible make Thrawn into a sexy manbeast thing?


    Or an I thinking about things like that too much?


    Mmmmm....Robbie Williams...


     
  16. Sith Magician

    Sith Magician Jedi Master star 5

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    I don't watch any Robbie Williams music videos, but i gotta say, anyone dyeing their eyeballs red deserves what happens next :p
     
  17. PulsarSkate

    PulsarSkate Ex-Mod star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I really need to think about things before I post them, don't I? :p

    And it's Robbie Williams we're talking about. I'm sure if he thought it would get him laid more, he'd do it. Including dying his eyeballs :p
     
  18. Kartanym

    Kartanym Jedi Knight star 6

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    alright, that's just wrong. I thought you were talking about Robin Williams not Robbie


    :p
     
  19. PulsarSkate

    PulsarSkate Ex-Mod star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Oh yes, I meant Robin...I love hirsute men!

    Especially if they're blue.


    [face_sick]
     
  20. MarvinTheMartian

    MarvinTheMartian Jedi Knight star 5

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    I think blue is such a sexy colour on aliens. :D
     
  21. Protege-of-Thrawn

    Protege-of-Thrawn Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Robbie Williams hardly needs to dye his skin or eyes to get laid. There isn't a straight women on this man's earth (pun fully intended ouch feminism ouch) who wouldn't jump into bed with the cheeky scoundrel.
     
  22. foxy_kenobi

    foxy_kenobi Jedi Master star 4

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    He's used goods :p


    My dad thinks he's ace though.. :eek:
     
  23. Sith Magician

    Sith Magician Jedi Master star 5

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    There isn't a straight women on this man's earth (pun fully intended ouch feminism ouch) who wouldn't jump into bed with the cheeky scoundrel.

    Not so, I know many women who he does absolutely nothing for...
     
  24. Detonating-Rabbit

    Detonating-Rabbit Jedi Knight star 5

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    Including me, Sith. Oh, wait...

    And I was talking about C'Boath...not Thrawn. I'm enough of a nerd to know Thrawn is a Chiss... :p
     
  25. Saintheart

    Saintheart Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    [Monty Python brigadier]Right. That's enough, This thread's gotten too silly. Silly, silly, silly indeed.[/brigadier]

    :D
     
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