San Diego, CA Anyone in California planning to vote on Tuesday? ... (a plea to stop Prop 96)

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  1. Happy_Hobbit_Padawan Force Ghost

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    Feb 3, 2003
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    I'm really sorry if this type of post does not belong here, but my family's a bit desperate in the homestretch, and I don't know how else to help.

    I don't intend to start a debate about this, but to make a plea, and give a personal side of things. If you're in California, you will have a chance to vote on Props 94-97, which will generously expand current tribal casinos for 4 tribes. Click here for background info and why this won't be a good idea, and Click here for a local grassroots effort.

    Prop 96 is the one dealing with the Sycuan casino, in east county San Diego. My family lives just a few miles from the casino. To reach that rural casino, there are only winding, 2-lane roads leading to it. In the past few years since the casino was built, we have seen a tremendous increase in traffic, and crime as well. We're all really worried what would happen if the number of slot machines went from 2,000 to 5,000, as this proposition would allow. We're also worried about Sycuan building a second casino just a mile from my family's house - where the Singing Hills golf course is - which the proposition would allow them to do. I know residents near the Pechanga casino near Temecula have similar fears, as it's in a residential area, with an elementary school across the street.

    So, a NO vote on Props 94-97 preserves the status quo - the casinos will still be there if you like to enjoy them, and the casinos will still be giving money they are required to, to the Special Distribution Fund, which is used to mitigate effects of the casino, giving money to local works like the fire department and roads. A yes vote means that the casinos won't be required to pay into that fund, and will be paying into the state's general fund, which can be used anywhere, not necessarily locally. Even if you're not personallly affected by casino expansion, a NO vote means that the tribes can come back later with a better compact, one that offers more money locally, one that offers more money to tribes without casinos (each of those tribes curently receives $1.1 million). The current proposition also does not address money to help problem gamblers, of which there might be 1.2 million in the state of California, costing $1 billion to the state's services.

    So, please, please vote NO on Props 94-97 (or at the very least, nix prop 96). If you're undecided and hadn't planned to vote on them, please vote NO as well, to prevent the yes vote from slipping above the 50% mark.

    Thank you for listening. :)

  2. MtnJedi Jedi Master

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    Oct 27, 2005
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    I think you have the wrong forum...this is for Star Wars fandom, not real world political discussion or propaganda. Plus I think it's against the rules of these forums.[face_plain]
  3. Miana Kenobi Admin Emeritus

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    Bel's a friend of mine who I've known for some time, Matt. There isn't a rule against political discussion, but if you feel like not getting involved, just don't reply.


    And this forum isn't just dedicated to Star Wars fandom. If it was, we wouldn't have random threads like the Invisibles thread, any sports or movie discussions, or the random bowling thread.
  4. jawajames FF Pacific RSA / Chapter Rep San Diego, CA

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    Apr 26, 2002
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    all those other threads are about star wars... invisibles sometimes has star wars pictures, movies include star wars references or actors or crew, and bowling involves moving something down an alley really fast ,and then knocking stuff around... which is like when luke does the trench run, or when young anakin bowls over some battle droids with his naboo fighter in the Trade Federation control ship hangar.

    and now this thread is related to star wars: when people don't remember to vote, democracy dies.. with thunderous applause! or something like that.

    making political pleas is allowed by the terms of service, so long as it isn't considered advertising, chain letters, pyramid schemes, or commercial solicitations or otherwise bad: (knowingly false and/or defamatory, misleading, inaccurate, abusive, vulgar, hateful, harassing, obscene, profane, sexually oriented, threatening, invasive of a person's privacy, that otherwise violates any law, or that encourages conduct constituting a criminal offense.)

    however, the terms of service also say: Also, as a general guideline, all users here should respect one another's opinions and beliefs. we've generally tried to show respect to everyone's political opinions and beliefs by not actively discussing political issues, so i agree with Matt that it feels out of place on our board, especially from someone who hasn't posted before (at least in the past few years) on our board.

    anyway, a reminder to go vote tomorrow. it's good for you. (and if you want to come visit your club vice president at the polls, i'll be heading up the poll at the Pacific Beach Methodist Church)

  5. DarthBrian Force Ghost

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    Apr 9, 2002
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    I voted this morning. :)
  6. MtnJedi Jedi Master

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    Oct 27, 2005
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    Sorry for misunderstanding.[face_blush]
  7. fett Jedi Knight

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    Feb 9, 1999
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    Not going to say how we voted on this issue, but Emily and I did our part and voted.
  8. me-gonk Force Ghost

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    Jan 17, 2003
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    Went out and did my part and voted.
    I can rightfully complain now if things don't go the way I want them too :p
  9. JediZabrak Jedi Master

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    Nov 12, 2004
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    Amber & I voted NO on all of those (deceiving) props. I have some relatives that are native Americans and they urged the same thing. (plus, CA police officers & firefighters suggested a "NO" vote on those props too)
  10. DarthBrian Force Ghost

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    Apr 9, 2002
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