JCC anything ____vs.____ anything

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  1. Alpha-Red Force Ghost

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    You ever play that level in Rogue Squadron on Kile II where you fly a Y-wing and drop bombs on that massive blob of stormtroopers that pop out of one of the buildings? The Last Alliance is just a bigger blob.
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  2. SithLordDarthRichie London CR

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    Dr. Manhattan vs Superman would be good fight I think, could go on for a while.



    If a human can destroy Sauron simply by chopping off his finger while he is wearing the One Ring, he's not exactly going to be hard for a Sith Lord such as Sidious to destroy.

    Also, if Sauron is immortal, how come he died? Surely immortal means you are unable to die.
  3. WIERD_GREEN_MAN Jedi Grand Master

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    Immortal does not mean invincible. Twilight vampires won't die of old age (or, I think, sickness) but if you burn them, they still die. Being in able to live forever in theory does not mean you will actually live forever.
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  4. MarcusP2 Games and Community Reaper

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    Are you serious? Dr Manhattan is omnipotent and all-powerful. He could dissolve Superman into his component molecules or turn his costume into kryptonite.
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  5. WIERD_GREEN_MAN Jedi Grand Master

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    So, Dr. Manhattan, then.
    Greek gods vs. the Norse gods
  6. MarcusP2 Games and Community Reaper

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    Norse gods, Zeus would be too distracted trying to score with the valkyries.
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  7. A Chorus of Disapproval New Films Riot Deterrent

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    A much more balanced... not to mention potentially interesting... Dr Manhattan opponent would be Adam Warlock. They can both turn reality inside out and all of that entering souls thing Warlock does could be marvelous in a Doc Manhattan battle.

    Oh, and Norse. For the exact reason Marcus so brilliantly offered.
  8. Darth_Maestro Force Ghost

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    Vichy France vs. Franco's Spain
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  9. Darth Guy Chosen One

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    Vichy France would win, I guess partly depending upon what point in WWII we're talking about. We also have to take into account that it was a puppet state of the Third Reich so...
  10. MrZAP Force Ghost

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    Cutting off the Ring didn't kill him; it just made him lose his power base (and temporarily his body) and have to flee and regroup for a few thousand years. Remember what Gandalf said in the adaption "Sauron's fate is tied to the Ring and the Ring survived." That applies to the book too. In any case even when the Ring was destroyed Sauron still technically wasn't dead, just diminished forever and unable to rise again. He's literally a god (lower case g) and cannot die. Saruman is in the same boat, though not as powerful, and when Wormtongue killed his body his spirit survived, but was not allowed to return to Valinor.

    As it is Isildur got in a very lucky strike; pretty much a one-in-a-million chance. Sauron, aside from being a ******* god, is an extremely powerful combatant who specialized in magic and (until the ability was taken away from him) shapeshifting. He had lost the latter power by the time he went up against Isildur otherwise it would have ended very differently. There's no reason why a Sauron at full power couldn't go toe-to-toe with Palpatine, especially since he pretty much can't die. Like I said Palpatine's main advantages would be his lightsaber and his speed, and the latter only comes into play if the former even helps at all. This is besides the fact that Sauron can utterly bend the minds of countless mooks plus the Nazgul to help him out. I don't see how Palpatine can possibly win unless the lightsaber is capable of incapacitating Sauron and he can get Sauron alone and out of the open, and all of those things are big ifs.

    Then again Sauron's lord Morgoth was maimed by a mere Noldorin Kingm eve though he came out on top in the end. But that was a magic blade. Lightsabers, as amazing as they are, aren't really the same.

    /Tolkien geek :-B

    And yeah, Dr. Manhattan vs. Superman is no contest. I don't really know much about Adam Warlock though so I can't call that one.

    Norse vs. Greek is closer, but I think the Norse will come out on top because of Zeus getting distracted and the major Norse gods are almost all war gods with a strong level of martial discipline and prowess (plus they're willing to help each other out more due to the courage in the face of death/stiff upper lip stoicism thing).
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  11. Alpha-Red Force Ghost

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    If I recall, Spain was mostly devastated in the civil war, while Vichy France still had a good portion of its military and economy intact. And Spain wasn't that much of a military power to begin with compared to the likes of Britain and France.
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  12. SithLordDarthRichie London CR

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    Having eternal life is not the same as immortality. Immortality is being unable to die or be killed, something beings such as Vampires do not fall under since they can be killed (sort of, seeing as they are already dead anyway). Gods are immortal because they are eternal and can't die (some may be killed by other gods depending on source material).
    Elves in LOTR have eternal life but they can die in battle, so they aren't immortal.

    Someone like Dr. Manhattan is immortal because as far as is known he is unable to be killed by anything.
  13. Adrian the Cool Jedi Master

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    Sauron was a Maia. The Ainur and Maiar's spirits are immortal and cannot be destroyed. But their bodies can be killed like everyone else's body be it Elf or Man.
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  14. Random Comments Force Ghost

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    And yet they come back (see Gilgalad, for example).

    I think we need new words to describe the distinction. Eternal life would mean living forever, ie not dying, and immortal means not dying. Anyone want to suggest one/make one up.
  15. Jabba-wocky Chosen One

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    Why is everyone so hung up on the not dying point? Just because you can't die doesn't mean you can win a fight. Especially if you are a big stupid eyeball/spotlight. Or if your weakness is a piece of jewelry that melts under extreme heat. Or you got beat by what was likely some middle aged, under-educated jerk with what were in all likelihoods marginal vitamin deficiencies.
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  16. Random Comments Force Ghost

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    It really annoys me with Gandalf vs. Vader ones.
    Clearly, the Death Star wins-the battle at hand. But Morgoth and Sauron come back at the end of time to destroy middle-earth. They might get the Death Star then (except it was destroyed by a farm boy who's only experience was shooting wamp rats.).

    Edit: I want to point out that it's not extreme heat, but the "fires from which it was forged." Otherwise, they would have found some other hot place.
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  17. Adrian the Cool Jedi Master

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    How about:
    You vs. the Eye of Sauron
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  18. SithLordDarthRichie London CR

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    I always wondered who would win in a fight between a skilled Mandalorian with all the tech like Jango Fett and a Predator.

    Many would say it's simple for Predator to win given the strength advantage, but given they have similar abilities (deployable blades, able to see in different spectrums, invisibility) plus the addition of a Mandalorian having near-indestructible armour and the ability to fly and it levels the playing field significantly.
    If this came down to a fist-fight it's clearly one-sided, in a battle of skill and deception it is not.
  19. Random Comments Force Ghost

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    Eye of Sauron, unless you'd join him for a pretty ring.
    If this was epic Sauron, he'd turn into a werewolf and attempt to destroy you, only to have a bigger werewolf destroy you later instead (because he failed to be the largest ever).
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  20. WIERD_GREEN_MAN Jedi Grand Master

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    The Flash vs. Sonic the Hedgehog
  21. mrsvos Force Ghost

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    Oreos and milk vs. tequila shots and OJ. Help me decide.
    5 minutes later...agave for the win.
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  22. Alpha-Red Force Ghost

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    Sonic is completely uncontrollable at high speed. Flash wins.
  23. MrZAP Force Ghost

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  24. Random Comments Force Ghost

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    Sherlock Holmes (BBC) vs. The Doctor
  25. Juliet316 Chosen One

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    The Doctor has a Sonic Screwdriver and a TARDIS. Hands down the winner.
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