AOTC ending

Discussion in 'Star Wars And Film Music' started by Perceval, Dec 20, 2002.

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  1. Perceval Jedi Knight

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    Sorry for any mistakes in my language, I'm out of praxis - hope you'll get my point anyway ...
    I really love the ending of Ep II, Yoda's comment, the departing troops and finally the forbidden wedding. And I think the score in that scene is brilliant ! But there's one point that I don't like and I do not know whether it's just bad editing (cutting ? don't know the word ...) or JW's "mistake". When the Imperial March theme starts over for the second time we are right in the middle of a zoom towards Palpatine and the senators ... of course it makes sense to see him when that music is played but that time it's played so intensely and dramatically that it would better fit to some cut.
    Hmmmm.... got my point ? :/ I hope so ;)
  2. AdamBertocci Manager

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    Your language is fine. :)

    I think the edit is fine as it is, I didn't mind the cue starting in mid-shot.



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  3. dehrian Manager Emeritus

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    I would rather have a cue that flowed musically than one that was cut or abbreviated to fit a cut. I know what you mean, but I like the way the cue flows.
  4. Sithman Jedi Grand Master

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    "Sorry for any mistakes in my language, I'm out of praxis..."



    [face_laugh] That is funny for all the wrong reasons.
  5. Strilo Manager Emeritus

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    I don't think every single nuance and change in the music has to indicate or coordinate with something on screen. This piece works perfectly with the visuals. I think George once again was right to ask Williams for this new piece rather than what he had...as was the case in 1977 with Binary Sunset.



  6. General Kenobi Administrator Emeritus

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    "Dawn of the Empire" is one of my favorite musical scenes. :)

    The fact that we are zooming in on Palpy as the IM kicks in again just emphasizes the fact that he is the man.

    OMG!!1!1!!! PALPY = SIDIOUS = TEH EMPEROR

    Sorry, you know what I mean. :p
  7. Sithman Jedi Grand Master

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    Ken, no offense, but "L33T5PEEK" just doesn't working coming from a 35 year old man. :p
  8. General Kenobi Administrator Emeritus

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    ...but "L33T5PEEK" just doesn't working coming from...

    That's ok, Sithy, it was just parody. ;)

    And besides, proper English often doesn't "working" coming from a 16-year-old kid! :p
  9. Sithman Jedi Grand Master

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    LMBO! See what happens? I criticize someone else and in the process make a fool of myself!

    There's my life story for ya. :p
  10. General Kenobi Administrator Emeritus

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  11. General Kenobi Administrator Emeritus

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    Anyhoo, as we were talking about the AOTC ending, I forgot to ask if you've all noticed the ATS "fanfare" inserted in "Dawn of the Empire"... :D
  12. DarthBoba Manager Emeritus

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    You mean the bit of bridge music between the two chunks of Imp march? That sounded like pirate music to me, not ATS.
  13. General Kenobi Administrator Emeritus

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    I never thought of fanfare as "pirate" music.

    I guess you could call it a bridge in "Dawn of the Empire", but I've never heard "chunk" used as a musical term before. :p
  14. Gregatron Jedi Knight

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    During the "Across the Stars" music video, we can hear "grand", unused music that perfectly segues into the "wedding scene" version of the love theme. I believe this is part of the *ORIGINAL* music for the "Dawn of the Empire" scene, BEFORE it was re-scored with the Imperial March.
  15. Lady__Skywalker Jedi Knight

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    I agree with many people here when I say that I like this ending as in the music fits fine with the shot.


    Gregatron

    During the "Across the Stars" music video, we can hear "grand", unused music that perfectly segues into the "wedding scene" version of the love theme. I believe this is part of the *ORIGINAL* music for the "Dawn of the Empire" scene, BEFORE it was re-scored with the Imperial March

    If I'm thinking of the right part you can hear that in the movie too. I think it's just there to make the transition from the Imperial March to Across the Stars smoother. I don't think that it was originally made for just that scene. Sorry if I misunderstood what you were saying.
  16. DarthBoba Manager Emeritus

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    I guess you could call it a bridge in "Dawn of the Empire", but I've never heard "chunk" used as a musical term before.

    I have my own way of speaking. So there. :p
  17. padmeleiaandluke Jedi Padawan

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    I think it is perfectly fine . Me being a Figure Skater I chose that particular song to skate to and it worked out perfectly fine.
  18. Strilo Manager Emeritus

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    Speaking of AOTC ending... anyone else here wonder why in the hell they cut out the statement of the Emperor's theme just before the solo female voice in the horribly named "Confrontation With Count Dooku and Finale" track?

  19. batvader Jedi Knight

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    Maybe time (CD time) was the issue.
  20. TwiLekJedi Pretty Ex-Mod

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    no, strilo, I don't know why, but I absolutely loved that statement there, when I saw the movie.

    Can it be, that it's the loudest choir-version of the Emperor's Theme? It seemed to me like it was. (When Palpy zaps Luke it's louder, but that's instruments. Right?)
  21. General Kenobi Administrator Emeritus

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    Yes, the whole finale would have been that much more awesome had they kept that in there. I understand why the tracks were edited in other instances, but why the finale? That statement of the Emperor's Theme is crucial there.

    The best is still The Rebel Fleet from ESB.
  22. batvader Jedi Knight

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    Definitelly. It's the most smooth finale music (in the sense that it blends with the credits nicely)
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