Bresson, I have a lot to cover here. As far as the flame that I posted, I don't care if that was directed at me,or a 15 year old kid, it was a self superior and totally insulting thing you said. Read your post, I did. First off, the music score. that was a false statement. As a musician of 24 years, I know a thing or two about music and it's origins. There were many MANY innovative scoring techniques that came out before 1941. Where did you get your info on that? The score in Citizen Kane has no life when compared to John Williams' scores IMO. Music is emotion,and the techniques used in Citizen Kane fall flat. Todays scores are almost like another actor with it's memorable scores(and Citizen Kane's score is not memorable to the vast majority. Another part that doesn't hold up.) Music is also sound,and I won't even get into the way Lucas has revolutionized sound,techniques that he didn't pick up from Citizen Kane I'm guessing. Just a guess. Did Citizen Kane have broad cinematic landscape to it? Lucas took that to a level that Welles could only look at and stare in amazement. A Galaxy was created on screen,with unique worlds and creatures,as well as pioneering special effects. I would call that about as deep and focused as cinematography can get. He makes you believe that fake things are real. That takes much more effort than a picture Like Citizen Kane does. And again, there were movies prior to 1941 that were innovative in this regard as well. Silent pictures come to mind. You mention the influences that Welles had on the works of Hawkes and Altman.( I like Rio Bravo and Mash as much as the next),but the perfection of overlapping dialogue is not anything to do cartwheels over,or maybe you do. Lucas didn't influence any directors on that level,he only influenced hacks like Spielberg,Cameron,Scott, and a whole slew of VERY highly thought of directors. "Did ANH fracture story structure in a manner that's still being felt today(Momento,anyone?Rashoman)" I would say that LOTR is a perfect example of this.(Not to mention the sequels to ANH that are still being felt today)What were your examples again As far as Citizen Kane being regarded as the greatest or one of the greatest movies,do you really believe this is the general consesus(oh yeah...we are stupid if we don't feel that way...I forgot) In it's time perhaps,but that day is long past in most people's(not all)eyes. The shelf life was nowhere near that of Star Wars or even the Godfather. As far as missing all of the hype surrounding it's DVD, it seems a lot of people did,and if you look at it's sales,you'll see that to be true. Sorry I missed it. Darn. And I hold movies in a high regard as well, but like I said( and you apparently didn't get) I form my own opinions about what I think is a good movie,an art form,whatever...You have a real problem putting yourself above others. You don't respect opinions that aren't as "great" as your own. I didn't put down a great movie to build up one that I liked. Can you post a quote from me where I said I thought Citizen Kane was great? Oh yeah, I'm supposed to have your opinion, not my own. Next time I'll ask you what my opinion should be. I'm not wrong for holding a movie in high regard or holding a movie in low regard, no more than you are. If everyone loved a movie and I hated it,it's my opinion,and I'm entitled to it just like everyone is. I don't have to justify it, but if I choose to, I will. I'm not justifying my Star Wars opinion here,but if your interested(and judging from your posts,I seriously doubt it) they are all over these forums.