Apofthegmata k sofies(tromara mas edition)

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  1. gianakin Jedi Knight

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    Loipon,o Obi_Kris mou edose afti tin idea,opte ena megal thnx se ekeinon.Edo tha leme katevates diapistoseis,theories k de simmazevetai sxetika me to SW.Otan postarei kapoios ti diki tou theoria tin sizitame k meta nea theoria ktl.
    Tha ksekiniso ego me to "Giati i Prequel Trilogy mou aresei pio poli apo tin Original Trilogy".
  2. gianakin Jedi Knight

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    Pame?Oraia:
    Den ksero vasika pos na to domiso to olo thema.Na to kano step by step sigkrisi no1 me no1 kathe trilogias?H mipos apla na po gia tin PT?Kala,tha to pao opos mou erxetai ekeini ti stigmi.Fisika den xreiazetai na po oti ola afta einai prosopiki mou apopsi ktl ktl(vevaia molis to eipa,alla de variesai!).
    Loipon,katarxin mou aresei pio poli logo epoxis pou zo kai gennithika.Einai para poli logiko gia mena na me travane ta CGI para ta analogika effe kai xeiropoiites ekrikseis ktl.Fisika thelo na mathaino pos ginontai apo akadimaikis apopsis,afou skopevo na asxolitho,alla ta CGI otan einai petiximena(kai sto SW pistevo simfoneite oti einai kata 90%),vgazoun ena poli kalo apotelesma.Pleon o Lucas mporei na kanei oti den mporouse tote.To exei pei alloste oti i OT einai to 70% afton pou ithele pragmatika na kanei.Tora mporei.Thisiase kapoia pragmata ston vomo tou CGI?Nai.Alla einai kai epixeirimatias,i ILM einai etaireia tou k kalos i kakos to SW einai mia diafimisi gia to ti mporei na kanei.Pera apo afto,ego goustaro poli ta CGI,opote eimai poli efxaristimenos me tin oli poreia tis PT(to Ep1 eixe arketa analogika mesa,to 2 elaxista,to 3 katholou!!!).Paei to texnologiko zitima.Fisika den tha simfoniso me opoiadipote protasi na ksanagiristei i OT me ta nea deomena.No sir.Alla tha goustara(pou tha ginei) na prostethoun k alla mesa stin epomeni ekdosi ton DVD pou tha vgei to 2007.
    Oraia.Telos apo ta texnologika.Pame stous ithopoious.Loipon,Natalie Portman apeiros kaliteri apo tin Carrie Fisher(Leia) k to exei apodeiksei.Sto Ep1 itan OK,sto 2 den mou arese,sto 3 apo oti exo dei i kopela spernei.Ewan McGregor teleios gia ObiWan,o tipos kanei oti k o Alec Guiness:Ton kanei mouri k sofo taftoxrona.Evge!IanMcDiarmid ti na po gia ton theo?Aggliko theatro=exo arxidia ithopoiias mesa mou kai terastia malista.Frank Oz(Yoda) opos ton kseroume,Liam Neeson ithopoiara k gamatos os Jedi k o Jake Lloyd(nearos Anakin) oti perimena apo ena 9xrono.Telos,to amfilegomeno simeio olis tis PT,pou edose trofi gia tous bashers.O Hayden.Gia mena?Theos.O tipos exei ena eidos paiksimatos pou eilikrina den exo ksanadei.Apo ti mia sou dinei entiposi oti sfigketai na milisei apo tin alli vgazei kati ekfraseis pou eilikrina proti fora vlepo.Thelei douleia akoma,alla o tipos an den lamsei tha einai poli krima.An den exete dei tis alles 2 tainies tou(Shattered Glass k Life as a House),aksizoun k san tainies k gia na deite Hayden se kati ekso-SW(os gnoston to SW den vgazei k ton kalitero eaft apo tous ithopoious).
    Polloi tha xalastikan pou den ipirxe enas Solo,alla tote pali tha paraponiontousan oti o GL antigrafei ton eafto tou.Edo oi iroes einai Jedi k to peirama tou GL na valei pistolero(ton Panaka sto Ep1) apetixe,opote no need for cowboys.Emena prosopika sto SW me travikse to Jedi-liki k oxi oi Bounty Hunters k to Millenium Falcon,allous to antitheto,ara katalavainete oti i PT einai paradeisos gia mena pou vlepo tous Jedi se kathe plano,eno stin OT eixe xoro k gia non-Force-users.
    Allo.To romantzo.Loipon,oi epoxes exoun allaksei apo ta 70s pou to protipo antra itan o trixotos agrios scoundrel kai epaize paixnidi agapis-misous-tsampouka gia na ta ftiaksoun 2 anthropoi.Simera,einai pio delikata k ipogeia ta paixnidia.Vevaia,de simvainei afto sto Ep2.Ti ginetai?To kathara romantiko_O Iroas paei stin prigkipissa tou k tis kanei eksomologisi.Ti pio epiko apo afto?Akoma k osoi to sigkrinoun me LotR tha vroun omoiotites,sosta?Ego imoun panta pio romantikos opote mou arese afto to eidos.Mila tis,ftiakste ta.Vevaia to proto mou paixnidi me kopela itan teleios Solo/Leia,alla den exei na leei.Genika,oxi oti mou kanei k terastia diafora,apla vriskei ligo pio prosforo edafos to romantzo tou Ep2 apo tou Ep5.
    Skines drasis.Poios amfisvitei tin anoterotita?Ego oxi pantos.Akoma k i Space Battle tou Ep6 se 5 meres tha kseperastei apo aftin tou Ep3.Fotospathomaxies?Entaksei,einai pseftikes apo thema kiniseon(etsi KerSoth,emeis pou kseroume apo spathaskia ;);)).Alla deite to kinimatografika.Entiposiako akouo?Ontos.Opote k mono gia pop-corn movie na to deis,i PT e
  3. Starkeiller Force Ghost

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  4. gianakin Jedi Knight

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    Epeidi variemai k den exo kati pio simantiko na kano pera apo to diavasma,eipa na kano allo ena entry sto thread afto pou einai to agapimeno mou k kata kairous tha prostheto merikes "ekthesoules".Loipon,eipa afto to post na to afieroso ston mousiki tou SW Saga.Prosfata ekana mia oraia sillogi apo kamia 80aria tragoudia apo tis 6 tainies k apo to paixnidi/novel "Shadows of the Empire",sintomos SotE.Gia na doume ti tha doume....
    Ksekinao me ta themes pou evgale kathe Epeisodio,arxizontas apo ta Ep1 k pigainontas me tin seira tis istorias.


    ---Epeisodio 1 Themes:
    Duel of the Fates-Prepei na po kati gia afto to kommati?O monos sxoliasmos pou exo na tou kano einai oti pianei apo ta ar###ia to pnevma tou "Jedi vs Sith"
    Anakin's Theme-Afto to theme den mou eipe pote tipota.To ksanakousa prosfata k akoma den to vrisko megalofies,opos akouo.Alla,o Williams exei kanei to poli kalo na kanei kathe strofi tou na teleionei me tis teleftaies notes tou Imperial March.Afto mou aresei poli.Kata ta alla,to kommati einai..."glikouli"
    Requiem Theme i allios Qui Gon's Funeral-Einai to episimo theme kdeias gia t oSW pia,eidika meta tin xrisi stin kideia tis Padme.Tromero kommati,para poli skoteino kai para poli requiem.Niotho deos opote to akouo.
    The Droid Invasion Theme i to Theme tou Kakou Stratou(lol)-Einai to kommati pou akougetai ston eisvoli ston Naboo alla k sto Ep2 otan o ObiWan vlepei ston Kamino gia 1i fora tous klonous.Tromero stratiotiko kommati,thimizei poli to "Scherzo for Motorcycle and Orchestra" apo to Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade,to theme tou kathikiou Nazi Aksiomatikou pou pethane sto faraggi.Lene oti sto Ep2 mpike apo kako montaz ston ixo k oti o Williams eixa grapsei kati allo gia ekeini ti skini.An isxiei,gia mena kalitera etsi,kathos prooikonomei oti oi klonoi tha einai o neos kakos stratos stin istoria tou SW.Mia xaroula.

    Epeisodio 1 aksiomnimonefta kommatia:
    To thimaste to kommati apo to Teaser topu Epeisodiou 3?To kommati pou epaikse k otan o Anakin prosedafize to ploio tou Grievous sto Ep3?E,afto proti fora akoustike sto Ep1 ekei pou o Anakin ksanapairnei ton elegxo tou skafous tou stin teliki maxi k dialaei to Trade Federation Battle Station.Apla o Ben "Butcher" Burtt evale sto top ta ixitika effe k egrapse sta palia tou ta studio tin mousiki.
    To kommati pou exoume se kathe apogeiosi tou skafous tis Padme,pou exei akoustei sto Ep2 otan skasan miti o Yoda me tous klonous stin Arena k otan exase tin varitita sto Ep3 to ploio tou Grievous k o R2 efage toumpes k epese sta paliosidera.Arketa katatethen kommati tis PT pistevo k mou erxetai i leksi "peripeteia" sto mialo otan to akouo.
    Ena kommati pou akougetai otan o anakin sikonei to skafos gia na polemisei stin teliki maxi k dialaei ta Destroyer Droids,anoigontas ston dromo stin mellousa gkomena tou,einai to pio paidiko kommati tou Epeisodiou k to monadiko paidiko tis PT,alla k pali arketa kalo kata ti gnomi mou.
    Stin maxi Gungans k droids akougetai ena kommati otan energopoiountai ta droids.Oxi kati to theiko,alla poli kalo march theme gia ta droids k gia tin maxi meta,otan afto epanalamvanetai pio entona.
    Nomizo oti eimaste cool apo to Ep1.Den anafero fisika kommatia pou emfanizontai proti fora stis palies tainies.Kathe pragma ston kairo tou.Genika to Ep1 Soundtrack mou arese para ma para poli k to katatasso 3o meta ta Ep3 k Ep5 stin mousiki.Ekane poli kali sindesi OT k PT k evale geres vaseis,ksekinontas ena diaforetiko simpan apo tis OT gia ta epomena Epeisodia tis PT.Evge!Pam parakat.


    ---Epeisodio 2 Themes:
    Love Theme i Across the Stars(2os titlos rules)-Gia mena apla to kalitero love theme pou exo akousei EVER se tainia tou sinema.Ever.Otan to akousa 1i fora pou agorasa to soundtrack,imoun k erotevmenos,imane gia klamata.
    Xexe,kapou edo teleionoun ta themes,to Ep2 den eixe k polla na mas prosferei apo dafta.

    Epeisodio 2 aksiomnimonefta kommatia:
    To adikoxameno kommati stin Arena pou akoustike mono miso apo ti stigmi pou o Anakin eksimeronei ekeino to ker
  5. gianakin Jedi Knight

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    Kai sinexizoume,osoi den piksate stin mousiki tis OT:


    ---Epeisodio IV Themes:
    Gkoux,Gkoux to Luke Skywalker Them i Star Wars Theme-Afto pou paizei se kathe opening crawl ton tainion.Sigoura oxi to agapimeno mou,alla einai to sima tou StarWars,i maskot,i taftotita,pos na to kanoume.Tha to xaraktiriza "paramithenio".
    The Force Theme-Na k to agapimeno mou kommati apo oles tis tainies.Giati?Dioti poli apla to exo akousei se stratiotiki version,se lipiteri,se epiki,panta mou prokalei anatrixiles,sinaisthimata k einai sa na akouo kati neo_Oti k na po gia afti tin kommatara einai poli ligo.EPOS.
    Leia's Theme-Oraio themataki,den mou prokalei ta-ta-taraxi,alla arketa simpathitiko.
    Afta apo themes,katholou asxima gia arxi,k pame sta aksiomnimonefta kommatia.

    Epeisodio IV aksiomnimonefta kommatia:
    Loipon,arxiko kommati,kinigi Tantive IV apo ton Star Destroyer.Doseee.Stratiotiko,entono k sou prokalei agonia.To ksanakoume pio argo se diafores faseis tou Death Star.
    Opoudipote paizei Force Theme me noumero 2 skiniko ekei pou o Luke koita to iliovasilema.No1 skiniko to telos stin parasimoforisi.Afto to kommati me exei gia tin plaka tou.Stratiotiko Force Theme,doseeeee.
    Oli i maxi tou Yavin.Ma oli.Poli agoniodes kommati,se krata se agrigorsi k sou dinei tin apeili oti sou erxontai 3 exthrika skafi apo piso!;)
    Meta einai kati kommatia pou paizoun sta ilithia ta Jawas akros paidika k spastika gia mena,opote de tha anfertho se afta.Genika to Ep4 einai to proteleftaio mou se protimisi soundtrack.


    ---Epeisodio V Themes:
    The Imperial March-E,ntaksei tora...Einai to Imperial March,ena apo ta stoixeia pou vromane Vader k Empire.Epithetiko kommati k,e,gamato einai,ti na peis tora...
    Han Solo and the Princess-To love theme tis OT.Kalo k tpt parapano,oute sinaisthimata mou gennaei,oute tpt.Apla kali mousiki.
    Yoda's Theme-Sou vgazei k oti anaferetai se kati mikroskopiko se megethos mono,omos.Meta sou vgazei kati to poli sofo.Me mia leksi.Yoda.Tromera petiximeno theme gia xaraktira.
    Afta apo themes k edo...

    Epeisodio V aksiomnimonefta kommatia:
    I maxi tou Hoth.Opos oles oi major maxes stis tainies,aksizei apo tin arxi os to telos.Eidika otan emfanizontai ta AT-Ats me tin mousiki na kanei kati trela me tis xamiles notes sto piano k akougetai san mixanismoi.Poli kalo.
    To kinigi stous asteroeideis.Allo ena kommati pou mou fernei sto mial oti nleksi "peripeteia".Poli kalo.
    To simeio pou to Millenium Falcon mpainei stin Cloud City.Poli aitheria mousiki,mou arese para poli afto to kommati.It truly belongs among the clouds...
    Ola ta kommatia tis maxis Luke/Vader.Tromeri mousiki,eidika sto simeio pou o Vader peta antikeimeno ston gioka tou,kommati pou mpike k stin arxi tis maxis Yoda/Sidious sto Ep3.
    To kommati ton Snowspeeders otan psaxnoun Luke k Han ston Hoth k paizei k otan paei i Leia na sosei ton Luke me to Falcon meta tin maxi me ton Vader.Kai vevaia to kommati pou o Luke epikoinonei me tin Leia k akougetai pali to Force Theme.Empaine!
    Fisika to telos pou ksekina me alli mia ksexoristi ektelesi tou Forxe Theme k kataligei se Han Solo and the Proncess.Poli dinato telos dinontas tin sovarotita tis katastasis k mia nota elpidas.


    ---Epeisodio VI Themes:
    Parade of the Ewoks-To proigoumeno Epeisodio eixe os Single to Imperial March,afto edo eixe to theme ton Cajolin.De pa na kaoun ola.Anyway,to kommati kalo,alla tpt spoudaio.Mou aresei ekei pou ginetai dinato.K meta lene gia tous Gungans,logo enos vlaka.Edo exoume na kanoume me mia olokliri fili reeee.Edo na sas po k mia fora pou piga Metropolis k pira mia sillogi apo soundtracks me 3CD,to ena Titanic,to allo Star Trek k to all StarWars epiloges.E,to pira dioti eida titlo Parade of the Jedi k leo "TIIII?Paizei eidiki ekdosi pou emfanizontai polloi Jedi san pnevmata?"Akou tora.E,to akouo k itan to PArade of the Ewoks.De variesai.Itan k midi...:_|
    Emperor's Theme-Alli kommatara apo kei.Ipogeio,tromaxtiko se faseis k apistefta
  6. gianakin Jedi Knight

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    K sto 3o k teleftaio meros tis fliaris mou sinitheia,ta "gemismata":

    Epeisodio 5,5 Themes:
    Prince Xizor's Theme-Kati san valse,o Joel McNeeley ekane kali douleia se afto to soundtrrack k to ekane na akougetai k san SW alla k san kati diko tou.Einai poli megaloprepes alla k taftoxrona sou vgazei kati to epikindino,pou einai afto akrivos pou isxiei gia ton Xizor.
    Afto apo themes,pame sta kommatia.

    Epeisodio 5,5 aksiomnimonefta kommatia:
    Battle of Gall,to kommati pou ginetai i maxi metaksi Rebels k aftokratorias meta to Ep5.Kat idiaforetiko apo Williams alla arketa petiximeno.Thimize k ligo Indiana Jones.Ligo omos.
    Beggar's Canyon Chase,opou o rolos-antigrafi tou Han Solo,o Dash Rendar paei na sosei ton Luke apo mia enedra kati tipadon tou Jabba me speeders.To kinigi ginetai mesa se kati vraxodeis ektaseis ston Tatooine,sto Beggar's Canyon,pou eixe anaferei o Luke prin tin maxi tou Yavin sto Ep4.Poli grigoro,me drasi k saspens.
    Leia's nightmare pou den einai tpt allo apo tis anamniseis tis tin ora pou o Han ginetai mpakaliaros stin katapsiksi apo to Ep5.Ksexasa na valo afto to kommati sto Ep5,alla mias k to anefera edo,no problem.Poli kalo kommati,afou periexei to Imperial March k poli epivlitiko.
    Night Skies,opou oi 2 kakoi tou ergou Vader k Xizor koitoun ton ourano k theloun ton Luke,o kathenas gia diko tou skopo.Parallila vlepoume k ton Luke na koita k na skeftetai tin ora pou paizei (NAIIIII) to Force theme se mia ektelesi pou sigoura o Williams tha zileve trela.Poli klai douleia.
    Telos,i teliki maxi ston Battle Station tou Xizor me epika fonitika pou prosopika den me aggiksan idiaitera,alla den itan k kako kommati.
    Poli kal osoundtrack gia non-Williams SW mousiki.Gia osous den kseroun to story,diadramatizetai metaksi Ep5-6 k afora ton Xizor pou thelei na ginei deksi xeri tou Aftokratora pagidevontas ton Vader xrisimopoiontas ton Luke.Otan o Vader amthainei tin prodosia tou Xizor,kathos k to oti thelei na peirkasei to vlastari tyou,tou viazei oti exei k den exei.Sto metaksi,oi Luke/Leia/Lando prospathoun sinexeia alla mataia na sosoun ton Han apo ton Boba.Kapos etsi.Poli aksio.Egine novel,comic k videogame k eixan apofasisei na to kanoun tainia.Mexri pou to eipan ston Lucas.Kai aftos tous eipe ti na paroun,xexe...


    Tora,apo tis telikes mousikes,kserete afou pesoun io titloi telous,den iparxoun polla na po,kathos einai pntaz apo ta hitakia tou kathe ergou,opote einai eggiisi ot imetrane.
    Merika simeia pou afisa gia to telos:

    ---Epeisodio 1:To telos,pou to ksexasa,pou einai mia mousiki pou tha mou tairiaze para poli gia Naboo,ifos k katoikous,opote k mou aresei k mou kollaei.To simeio pou protoemfanizetai o Sidious pou paizei to Emperor's Theme einai episis poli kalo k thimizei tis palies kales epoxes prin o Lucas mas viasei ta paidika mas xronia.To simeio pou o Anakin apoxaireta tin mana tou,me ena dinato Force Theme na paizei apo piso,kathos k ena psilostratiotiko theme 1 lepto prin epitethei o Maul ston QuiGon ston Tatooine.Telos,stin kideia tou Qui Gon,an proseksete PARA poli,tha akousete tis 5 teleftaies notes apo to Imperial March na paizei poli sigana.

    ---Epeisodio 2:To telos fisika pou einai montaz Imperial March k Across the Stars se olo tous to megaleio k ta 2.Trelo respect.To simeio pou o Anakin koita ton orizonta ston Tatooine ligo prin paei na vrei tin mama tou,kati pou tha kanei k o gios tou se peripou 21 xronia apo tora sto idio simeio,kai oi Owen k Beru se 3 xronia.Paizei to Force Theme k kapaki Duel of the Fates.E,ti allo thelo?

    ---Epeisodio 3:To Epeisodio 3 eixe genika poli Force Theme,etsi k allios i tainia afora k poso mpourdelo tin kanane afti tin kakomoira tin Force.To telos einai to mono pou exo na prostheso,me ta themes tis Leia ston Alderaan,tou Luke/Star Wars ston Tattooine kai tis Force sto telos me to zevgos Lars na koitoun apo to agapimeno simeio mpanistiriou to iliovasilema tis Tatooine.Apsogi kommatara.

    Den exo na valo kati apo tis palies tainies,kathos aftes kanan tin arxi,opote oute gata oute zimia.Elpizo na sas arese o
  7. Obi_one_and_only Jedi Grand Master

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    gianaki: Episimos filosofos tou FFGreece!
  8. gianakin Jedi Knight

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  9. Obi_one_and_only Jedi Grand Master

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    Gamoto! Ksexasa na valo to n sto telos... [face_frustrated]
  10. Darth_marios Jedi Master

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    Re gianni, sto ep3 den itan kai to "A Hero Falls"? To ksexases?
    Giati einai kommatara.
  11. gianakin Jedi Knight

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    To A Hero Falls einai to Music Video gia to Battle of the Heroes.Opos k stin Ameriki to Across the Stars einai to video gia to Love Theme.Ekei dld to kommati to lene Love Theme,alla stin Evropi to leme Across the Stars(mantepse poios einai o pio eksipnos laos,ti kakos pou eimai thee mou).Ara to kommati einai to Battle of the Heroes,afto pou akougetai stin maxi Anakin/Kenobi k otan to ekanan videoclip,to eipan A Hero Falls.
  12. Obi-Kris_Kenobi Jedi Knight

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    Xm, afou me mnimoneyse o Gianakin, den ginetai na min grapsw kai egw kati. Basika, mou thymizei ligo tis kritikes-"rapswdies" pou kaname se kati alla threads. Alla twra tha asxolithw me kati pio sygkekrimeno:

    Giati o Obi-Wan einai o kalyteros kai pio agapimenos Jedi




    Arxizoume apo ta basika: Ton xaraktira tou kai ton rolo tou. Prokeitai gia enan Padawan, o opoios, nai men itane enas "aplos" Jedi xwris pergamines, alla siga-siga eftiakse onoma kai egine enas apo tous kalyterous, an oxi o kalyteros Jedi olwn twn epoxwn! Syndyazei polles aretes: Einai sofos kai ikanos me tin Dynami. Einai eksypnos, "poniros", exei humor, apopneei taytoxrona sebasmo kai filikotita, einai kalos maxitis (isaksios tou Anakin, etsi?), psyxraimos otan prepei (duel me Dooku sto AOTC) kai reckless otan tou kapnisei (blepe: "Spaw plaka" me ton Grievous sto ROTS). Exei kathari gnwsi tou ti einai Kalo kai ti Kako kai einai enas aksios mentoras (kai as gkriniazei o Anakin!). Poios den tha ton ithele gia mentora tou eite stin PT version tou, eite san ton sofo geronta stin OT?

    "Which reminds me..."

    Oi 2 ithopoioi pou ton ypodyontai einai koryfi! O Alec Guiness, sygxwremenos, einai apo tous kalyterous ithopoious pou ypirksan pote. Oi roloi tou, polloi kai diaforetikoi. Mporouse na metamorfvthei se pollous xaraktires, san ton Peter Sellers, alla xwris tin "paranoia" tou teleytaiou. Mporouse na kratisei mia tainia monos tou kai na dynamwsei skines stis opoies epaize, opws kai na klepsei ti skini apo ton prwtagwnisti (Lawrence tis Arabias). Edwse sarka kai osta ston Obi-Wan, opws kai se kathe xaraktira pou ypodithike. Kyriws, den eide ton rolo san kati geleio, opws o Harisson Ford, alla timise ton rolo tou apo tin arxi. O tropos pou milaei, o tropos pou koitazei, ola ayta dinoun monadikotita kai zwi ston Obi-Wan. Kai fysika einai mesa stin "Agia Triada" me tis kalyteres atakes stin palia trilogia: Obi-Wan, Yoda kai Vader lene basika oli tin istoria tis PT (sponta: Opws tha eprepe na einai...grrrr).

    Pame ston Ewan McGregor. Den mporeite na fantastite ton enthusiasmo mou otan ematha oti tha epaize ton Obi-Wan. Hdi poly kalos sto Trainspotting kai mia apisteyti epilogi gia cast, apo ton Lucas kai tin Gurland (i kyria pou kanei to cast). O Ewan einai apo tous pio xarismatikous ithopoious tis genias tou kai, opws egrapse kai to "THEMA" "Akomi kai an o McGregor epaize kapoion pou brisketai se kwma, exei to xarisma na se kanei na taytizesai mazi tou." LOL kai swsto! Exei mia idiaiteri fwni ki aytos, paizei me tis profores kai tous poly diaforetikous rolous pou exei analabei mexri stigmis. Narkwmanis, Jedi, Poiitis, syggrafeas, trompetistas, rockas, frouros, naytis, playboy, klwnos, mixanovios (;)), robot(!) i peristeri(!!), i gkama tou moiazei ateleiwti. Paizei kia theatro. Thelw na ton dw na paizei enan kako pantws, tha ginei kai ayto kapote. San Obi-Wan einai apsogos, kai na skeftei kaneis pws itan isws i dyskoloteri douleia pou eixe ithopoios sta Prequels. Anakin se anthrwpini morfi eidame elaxisto, o Obi-Wan omws itan basikos xaraktiras tis OT. O McGregor denei apsoga parelthon kai mellon, eidika sto ROTS einai kati parapanw apo theikos!


    Ayta ta oliga apo emena, elpizw na sas arese.
  13. gianakin Jedi Knight

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    Nov 29, 2004
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    Na simfoniso me ton Kris k na po ena thnx k mpravo pou simmetexeis se afto k na sxoliaso ta eksis.

    Exei kathari gnwsi tou ti einai Kalo kai ti Kako kai einai enas aksios mentoras (kai as gkriniazei o Anakin!).

    Tha elega edo mono oti exei perissoteri antilipsi gia ton giro tou kosmo,kathos to kalo kai to kako einai ontos points of view,vlepei pou kati paei strava k pote kati einai "out of place" poli kaliktera apo olous.


    Kyriws, den eide ton rolo san kati geleio, opws o Harisson Ford, alla timise ton rolo tou apo tin arxi.


    N'agiasei to pliktrologio sou!K milame gia ton idio ithopoio pou apopoiithike ton rolo tou ObiWan apo ti filmografia tou k pou otan enas thavmastis tou tou eksefrase ton thavmasmo gia to paiksimo tou o Alec Guinness tou eipe "An thavmazeis toso poli to ergo mou kane mou mia xari.Min ksanadeis SW.Pote".Kai omos itan o monos sovaros sto plato tou Ep4,o monos pou voithouse ton Lucas k o monos pou ITHELIMENA girise gia to Ep5 kai Ep6,otan o Harrison gkriniaze pou epaize sto Ep6(sponta: kati pou fainetai katharotata).


    Narkwmanis, Jedi, Poiitis, syggrafeas, trompetistas, rockas, frouros, naytis, playboy, klwnos, mixanovios ( wink ), robot(!) i peristeri(!!), i gkama tou moiazei ateleiwti. Paizei kia theatro. Thelw na ton dw na paizei enan kako pantws, tha ginei kai ayto kapote.


    Mixanovios na fantasto ennoeis to The Island,e?Oso gia ton rolo tou kakou,to Ep1 vgike to 1999 k to Batman Begins to 2005 k eidame epitelous ton Liam Neeson kako,opote tha exei k o Ewan tin efkairia tou na paiksei ton kako.Edo o Tom Cruise ton epaikse sta 42 tou(Collateral).Sigoura tha paiksei k tha einai k gamatos.


  14. Obi-Kris_Kenobi Jedi Knight

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    Sep 13, 2002
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    K milame gia ton idio ithopoio pou apopoiithike ton rolo tou ObiWan apo ti filmografia tou k pou otan enas thavmastis tou tou eksefrase ton thavmasmo gia to paiksimo tou o Alec Guinness tou eipe "An thavmazeis toso poli to ergo mou kane mou mia xari.Min ksanadeis SW.Pote".Kai omos itan o monos sovaros sto plato tou Ep4,o monos pou voithouse ton Lucas k o monos pou ITHELIMENA girise gia to Ep5 kai Ep6,otan o Harrison gkriniaze pou epaize sto Ep6(sponta: kati pou fainetai katharotata).


    Xm, ayto den to iksera, oti diladi apopoiithike ton rolo tou. Isws gia ena diastima, giati argotera fainetai na syniditiopoiise oti itan kommati tis kinimatografikis istorias. Oso gia tin antidrasi tou ston fan, fantazomai tha epathe kati antistoixo me ton Ewan: Otan paizeis theatro kai o allos erxetai kai sta prizei (me to sympathio) me to SW, logiko einai na tou tin peis kai ligo. Asxeta me to ti eipwthike ektos plato pantws, sta gyrismata kai stis tainies, o Sir Alec itan ypodeigmatikos.



    Mixanovios na fantasto ennoeis to The Island,e?Oso gia ton rolo tou kakou,to Ep1 vgike to 1999 k to Batman Begins to 2005 k eidame epitelous ton Liam Neeson kako,opote tha exei k o Ewan tin efkairia tou na paiksei ton kako.Edo o Tom Cruise ton epaikse sta 42 tou(Collateral).Sigoura tha paiksei k tha einai k gamatos.

    Kammia sxesi. Gia to Island, pou akoma den exw dei, egrapsa to "klwnos". Mixanovios einai sto documentary The Long Way Round, opou kanei ton gyro tou kosmou parea me enan filo tou panw se 2 mixanes megalou kybismou. Proteinw na to psaksete, eite san DVD, eite san kati, ahem, pou na "kataibainei"... Ypothetw einai inevitable o Ewan na kanei ton kako. Sto Young Adam den itane oute "kakos" oute "kalos", aplws ebgaze ta matia tou ana 2 lepta!:p Nai, o Neeson, o Cruise, o Tom Hanks, o Bruce Willis, o Travolta, oloi aytoi paizane paradosiaka tous "kalous" alla kapoia stigmi... the Dark Side consumed them... Ewan it IS your destiny![face_devil]
  15. gianakin Jedi Knight

    Member Since:
    Nov 29, 2004
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    A,kali fasi gia to Long Way Around,den eida k to "klonos" pou eixes grapsei.
    Vasika o Alec egrapse k vivlio pros to telos tis zois tou kai fanike oti den allakse k polla stin apopsi tou gia to SW.Opote....Alla afto mou deixnei ena pragma:Tin diafora tou Epaggelmatia apo ton Cowboy(Ford).
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