JCC Apple/Mac discussion

Discussion in 'Community' started by KnightWriter, Jun 21, 2006.

  1. Obi-Zahn Kenobi Chosen One

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    Hmm. This is definitely a mystery, one that cannot be explained by porn alone. I never knew that there would ever be such an enigma.
  2. GrandAdmiralJello Community and Lit moderator person

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    0_o


    That's quite a computer there...
  3. Obi-Zahn Kenobi Chosen One

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    It's actually quite a couple of computers (he bought two).

    I think he's crazy not to wait the extra year or so until we have 45nm Intel chips on the market and DDR3-1600 is standard.
  4. Jedi_Reject_Jesse Force Ghost

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    He must be rolling in it. I've customized the mac pros on the apple website and boosted the specs as far as they can go, and the price usually is in the 16,000 dollar range!
  5. Obi-Zahn Kenobi Chosen One

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    He doesn't believe in going into debt. He bought both his current house and car (a brand new Volvo) outright.
  6. The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth

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    So I'm doing some prelim looking into upgrading my current 867mhz G4 Quicksilver to a Macpro and I must confess, I'm a little out of the loop with the latest processor terms and it's leaving me a little confused, so can someone explain to me the differences between a Quad-Core of two 2-3ghz Dual-Core "Woodcrests" and an 8-Core of two 3ghz Quad-Core "Clovertowns"?

    Obviously the 8-Core is implied to be faster, but I'm trying to determine if it's something I need or not. I'm looking to use it for video editing, so I mainly just want something more powerful than what I have (even though the G4 is sufficient, except for HD video playback and such), which obviously any of these will be, but I'm just making sure I get the right one.

    Anyways, I guess my question boils down to "How does a multicore processor affect performance, and how does increasing the number of cores affect that effect?".

    I won't be buying this till probbaly Leopard is out (hopefully preinstalled) but I'm just trying to get a feel for things.

    EDIT- corrected book/pro typo.
  7. Spiderfan Jedi Grand Master

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    I am envious sir...editing on a Mac...I miss Final Cut. :(
  8. Obi-Zahn Kenobi Chosen One

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    Well, if you're doing HD video encoding you'll probably want the eight cores. If not, a dual-core processor will do you just fine.

    Multiple cores allow for multiple things to be processed at the same time, meaning that things that can have multiple streams (separate programs, video encoding, some soon-to-be-released games {like Crysis}) can be processed at the same time without slowing either one down. Basically, the more cores, the more things you can process at once - but it doesn't make each program process faster (unless it's designed to take advantage of multiple cores, and the switch is taking place, slowly but surely). Smaller nanometer + faster clock speed = faster processing. More cores = more that you're able to process.

    Woodcrest and Clovertown are Intel names for the processor style, referring to the process that is used to make it and the edition.

    Woodcrest simply means that it's a Dual-Core Intel chip for servers built with a 65nm process. Clovertown is the codeword for the quad-cores.

    I didn't know that the MacBooks offered those processors. I don't believe they do. I would think that they would be called Merom, which are Intel's Core 2 Duo processors for laptops.

    Anyway, you will be paying a premium to Apple for the more cores you get. Eight-cores will be very useful for video editing, but I'm sure that two dual-core processors at 3.0 GHz will be very sufficient for the next few years at the least.
  9. The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth

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    Whoops, allow me to correct myself- I meant Mac Pro, not Mac Book (I'm still adjusting to not saying/thinking "Power Mac", so forgive me- it's just ingrained ;) ).
  10. Jedi_Reject_Jesse Force Ghost

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    JOHN THE MAC OS X LEOPARD WALKTHROUGH DUDE IS A TERRIBLE ACTOR
  11. The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth

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    [image=http://edge.macworld.com/2007/10/images/content/leosf2.jpg]

    [face_laugh] I would have loved to have had that view! [face_laugh]

    (beyond, you know, meaning I'd have been among the first in line ;) )
  12. GrandAdmiralJello Community and Lit moderator person

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    So KW, I'd like to hear about how awesome Leopard is now. :p
  13. Coruscant Force Ghost

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    I'll have to do until KW shows up....

    My computer is actually faster now, much faster, since the Leopard was designed for the Intel-based machines. Safari is running so fast, I feel like I'm on cable again (wi-fi user).

    So, yes, Leopard is deservedly awesome.
  14. KnightWriter Administrator Emeritus

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    Other than positive reviews that are appearing in the mainstream press, I don't really know enough to say. I'm sure it's good, but I won't be switching just yet. It's mainly a cost thing, as $129 for something that only improves on what I already have is a bit unnecessary for me at the moment. I may wait until 10.5.2 or 3 to upgrade (when I got my iBook in January of 2006, 10.4.4 had been released the week before).
  15. ThrawnRocks Force Ghost

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    I have to wonder how the photographer got out... :p
  16. Coruscant Force Ghost

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    Wait a minute.... was that picture taken at the Apple store in San Francisco?

    I'm pretty sure that's my mother in the foreground with the brown coat and sunglasses peeping over the top of her hair. [face_hypnotized]
  17. GrandAdmiralJello Community and Lit moderator person

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    KW: My campus computer store is selling it for $69. They got a special deal with Apple. :p
  18. Coruscant Force Ghost

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    IT IS! [face_plain] My mother is having an affair. She's supposed to be in Central CA managing the jewelry stores. [face_plain]

    And we were gonna throw a birthday dinner for her tonight in downtown.... she is so busted. I got her a lovely little book of short stories and everything....

  19. FORCEFED Jedi Grand Master

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    anybody know if the adobe cs2 my work installed on my machine will work if i upgrade to leopard?

    i'd hate to lose it, and they aren't upgrading to cs3 yet :(



    FF
  20. GrandAdmiralJello Community and Lit moderator person

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  21. Coruscant Force Ghost

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    That's it. I am so interrogating her about this tonight.

    Not in front of my father, of course. He's effin' crazy.

    Oh yeah. Leopard rocks, bla bla bla.
  22. KnightWriter Administrator Emeritus

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    Should work just fine :). Better, I would imagine.
  23. GrandAdmiralJello Community and Lit moderator person

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    Tell me why.

    I need a new laptop soon and Macs are ridiculously light. I may get a macbook just to prove I can be open-minded, but I need good reasons to. :)
  24. Coruscant Force Ghost

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    Gah, I had started to list reasons, but I'm no Apple salesman. Seriously, walk into an Apple store and just find the nearest, available employee and they'll have you converted before you can say "Windows sucks." :p
  25. FORCEFED Jedi Grand Master

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    is that a guess? LOL


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