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JCC Apple/Mac discussion

Discussion in 'Community' started by KnightWriter, Jun 21, 2006.

  1. Obi-Zahn Kenobi

    Obi-Zahn Kenobi Jedi Grand Master star 7

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    Hmm. This is definitely a mystery, one that cannot be explained by porn alone. I never knew that there would ever be such an enigma.
     
  2. GrandAdmiralJello

    GrandAdmiralJello Comms Admin ❉ Moderator Communitatis Litterarumque star 10 Staff Member Administrator

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    0_o


    That's quite a computer there...
     
  3. Obi-Zahn Kenobi

    Obi-Zahn Kenobi Jedi Grand Master star 7

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    It's actually quite a couple of computers (he bought two).

    I think he's crazy not to wait the extra year or so until we have 45nm Intel chips on the market and DDR3-1600 is standard.
     
  4. Jedi_Reject_Jesse

    Jedi_Reject_Jesse Jedi Grand Master star 7

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    He must be rolling in it. I've customized the mac pros on the apple website and boosted the specs as far as they can go, and the price usually is in the 16,000 dollar range!
     
  5. Obi-Zahn Kenobi

    Obi-Zahn Kenobi Jedi Grand Master star 7

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    He doesn't believe in going into debt. He bought both his current house and car (a brand new Volvo) outright.
     
  6. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    So I'm doing some prelim looking into upgrading my current 867mhz G4 Quicksilver to a Macpro and I must confess, I'm a little out of the loop with the latest processor terms and it's leaving me a little confused, so can someone explain to me the differences between a Quad-Core of two 2-3ghz Dual-Core "Woodcrests" and an 8-Core of two 3ghz Quad-Core "Clovertowns"?

    Obviously the 8-Core is implied to be faster, but I'm trying to determine if it's something I need or not. I'm looking to use it for video editing, so I mainly just want something more powerful than what I have (even though the G4 is sufficient, except for HD video playback and such), which obviously any of these will be, but I'm just making sure I get the right one.

    Anyways, I guess my question boils down to "How does a multicore processor affect performance, and how does increasing the number of cores affect that effect?".

    I won't be buying this till probbaly Leopard is out (hopefully preinstalled) but I'm just trying to get a feel for things.

    EDIT- corrected book/pro typo.
     
  7. Spiderfan

    Spiderfan Jedi Knight star 6

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    I am envious sir...editing on a Mac...I miss Final Cut. :(
     
  8. Obi-Zahn Kenobi

    Obi-Zahn Kenobi Jedi Grand Master star 7

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    Well, if you're doing HD video encoding you'll probably want the eight cores. If not, a dual-core processor will do you just fine.

    Multiple cores allow for multiple things to be processed at the same time, meaning that things that can have multiple streams (separate programs, video encoding, some soon-to-be-released games {like Crysis}) can be processed at the same time without slowing either one down. Basically, the more cores, the more things you can process at once - but it doesn't make each program process faster (unless it's designed to take advantage of multiple cores, and the switch is taking place, slowly but surely). Smaller nanometer + faster clock speed = faster processing. More cores = more that you're able to process.

    Woodcrest and Clovertown are Intel names for the processor style, referring to the process that is used to make it and the edition.

    Woodcrest simply means that it's a Dual-Core Intel chip for servers built with a 65nm process. Clovertown is the codeword for the quad-cores.

    I didn't know that the MacBooks offered those processors. I don't believe they do. I would think that they would be called Merom, which are Intel's Core 2 Duo processors for laptops.

    Anyway, you will be paying a premium to Apple for the more cores you get. Eight-cores will be very useful for video editing, but I'm sure that two dual-core processors at 3.0 GHz will be very sufficient for the next few years at the least.
     
  9. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    Whoops, allow me to correct myself- I meant Mac Pro, not Mac Book (I'm still adjusting to not saying/thinking "Power Mac", so forgive me- it's just ingrained ;) ).
     
  10. Jedi_Reject_Jesse

    Jedi_Reject_Jesse Jedi Grand Master star 7

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    JOHN THE MAC OS X LEOPARD WALKTHROUGH DUDE IS A TERRIBLE ACTOR
     
  11. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    [image=http://edge.macworld.com/2007/10/images/content/leosf2.jpg]

    [face_laugh] I would have loved to have had that view! [face_laugh]

    (beyond, you know, meaning I'd have been among the first in line ;) )
     
  12. GrandAdmiralJello

    GrandAdmiralJello Comms Admin ❉ Moderator Communitatis Litterarumque star 10 Staff Member Administrator

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    So KW, I'd like to hear about how awesome Leopard is now. :p
     
  13. Coruscant

    Coruscant Jedi Grand Master star 7

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    I'll have to do until KW shows up....

    My computer is actually faster now, much faster, since the Leopard was designed for the Intel-based machines. Safari is running so fast, I feel like I'm on cable again (wi-fi user).

    So, yes, Leopard is deservedly awesome.
     
  14. KnightWriter

    KnightWriter Administrator Emeritus star 9 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Other than positive reviews that are appearing in the mainstream press, I don't really know enough to say. I'm sure it's good, but I won't be switching just yet. It's mainly a cost thing, as $129 for something that only improves on what I already have is a bit unnecessary for me at the moment. I may wait until 10.5.2 or 3 to upgrade (when I got my iBook in January of 2006, 10.4.4 had been released the week before).
     
  15. ThrawnRocks

    ThrawnRocks Jedi Master star 6

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    I have to wonder how the photographer got out... :p
     
  16. Coruscant

    Coruscant Jedi Grand Master star 7

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    Wait a minute.... was that picture taken at the Apple store in San Francisco?

    I'm pretty sure that's my mother in the foreground with the brown coat and sunglasses peeping over the top of her hair. [face_hypnotized]
     
  17. GrandAdmiralJello

    GrandAdmiralJello Comms Admin ❉ Moderator Communitatis Litterarumque star 10 Staff Member Administrator

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    KW: My campus computer store is selling it for $69. They got a special deal with Apple. :p
     
  18. Coruscant

    Coruscant Jedi Grand Master star 7

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    IT IS! [face_plain] My mother is having an affair. She's supposed to be in Central CA managing the jewelry stores. [face_plain]

    And we were gonna throw a birthday dinner for her tonight in downtown.... she is so busted. I got her a lovely little book of short stories and everything....

     
  19. FORCEFED

    FORCEFED Jedi Master star 5

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    anybody know if the adobe cs2 my work installed on my machine will work if i upgrade to leopard?

    i'd hate to lose it, and they aren't upgrading to cs3 yet :(



    FF
     
  20. GrandAdmiralJello

    GrandAdmiralJello Comms Admin ❉ Moderator Communitatis Litterarumque star 10 Staff Member Administrator

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    Coruscant: Your mom. :p
     
  21. Coruscant

    Coruscant Jedi Grand Master star 7

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    That's it. I am so interrogating her about this tonight.

    Not in front of my father, of course. He's effin' crazy.

    Oh yeah. Leopard rocks, bla bla bla.
     
  22. KnightWriter

    KnightWriter Administrator Emeritus star 9 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Should work just fine :). Better, I would imagine.
     
  23. GrandAdmiralJello

    GrandAdmiralJello Comms Admin ❉ Moderator Communitatis Litterarumque star 10 Staff Member Administrator

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    Tell me why.

    I need a new laptop soon and Macs are ridiculously light. I may get a macbook just to prove I can be open-minded, but I need good reasons to. :)
     
  24. Coruscant

    Coruscant Jedi Grand Master star 7

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    Gah, I had started to list reasons, but I'm no Apple salesman. Seriously, walk into an Apple store and just find the nearest, available employee and they'll have you converted before you can say "Windows sucks." :p
     
  25. FORCEFED

    FORCEFED Jedi Master star 5

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    is that a guess? LOL


    FF