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Are Clawcraft the same craft Thrawn's Phalanx use?

Discussion in 'Literature' started by Lt.Cmdr.Thrawn, Feb 23, 2002.

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  1. Lt.Cmdr.Thrawn

    Lt.Cmdr.Thrawn Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Are they? They seem quite similar, but I remember Zahn saying something about 2 turbolasers underneath the cockpit and also that each craft carried 2 pilots...

    Are they the same?
     
  2. GrandAdmPellaeon

    GrandAdmPellaeon Jedi Youngling star 1

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  3. Resolute

    Resolute Jedi Youngling star 1

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    I thought they were. It is specifically said that the Mittithrawnuruodo Phalanx uses Chiss clawcraft, so how could there be a difference?
     
  4. Wedge 88

    Wedge 88 Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    I too thougth that they were the strange ships that befundled our heros in HoT.
     
  5. JEDI-SOLO

    JEDI-SOLO Force Ghost star 6

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    Yes what Resolute said. I thougt they came from the same Phalanx.
     
  6. Lt.Cmdr.Thrawn

    Lt.Cmdr.Thrawn Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I mean, I know that The Hand uses Clawcraft, but are Clawcraft the same ships we see in NoT duology? Didn't Zahn mention that thay had TIE wings? I'll have to go back and check.
     
  7. Cloaked

    Cloaked Jedi Youngling

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    The Clawcraft is not the same as the Chiss craft seen in the HoT. The craft used in HoT was actually more like a medium size shuttle than a starfighter.
     
  8. Darth McClain

    Darth McClain Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    The Imps use Preybirds in HoT if I remember, if that helps any.
     
  9. Wedge 88

    Wedge 88 Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    But they were fighters too. I'm thinking they are the exact same.
     
  10. chissdude10

    chissdude10 Jedi Youngling star 5

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    Thrawns house uses clawcrafts, the main chiss dont.
     
  11. Valiento

    Valiento Jedi Knight star 7

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    It was a special scout ship with a navi-computer in HOT.
     
  12. Soontir-Fel

    Soontir-Fel Force Ghost star 5

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    I'm sure the main chiss use clawcraft, but than again we don't know enough about them to be sure
     
  13. Valiento

    Valiento Jedi Knight star 7

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    clawcraft are imperial/chiss techonology. the main chiss don't consort with anyone but there own empire. So I doubt they have any imperial technology.
     
  14. Soontir-Fel

    Soontir-Fel Force Ghost star 5

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    But if they send their children off to a place that isn't supposed to exist, then couldn't they get ship plans from a anonamus deliverer
     
  15. Valiento

    Valiento Jedi Knight star 7

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    The main chiss empire can't even leave there own empire, there hyperspace technology is severly lacking. They only have 28 systems or so.
     
  16. Soontir-Fel

    Soontir-Fel Force Ghost star 5

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    But they could be shipped some clawcraft from the Hand of thrawn
     
  17. Valiento

    Valiento Jedi Knight star 7

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    The main chiss empire doesn't contact there exiled chiss. They got rid of them because they don't follow there ways.
     
  18. Soontir-Fel

    Soontir-Fel Force Ghost star 5

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    They don't contact them but say a soldir who left the main chiss joined up with HoT phalanx and then came back was "mysterisly" promated up ranks a started mass building them
     
  19. Valiento

    Valiento Jedi Knight star 7

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    Basically if you leave the chiss to go against there way of life according to alien anthology and gamer 5, you are forever outcasted never to return. Chiss empire are rather isolationists and don't want to get involved with any affairs they are happy with the technology they have. Which according to gamer 5 and alien anthology is just a fleet of small sized dreadnaught sized ships as I recall.
     
  20. Black_Hole

    Black_Hole Jedi Master star 4

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    But what is a small fleet of dreadnaught size ships? If they are comparing it to the Empire, that is large fleet, but if they are camparing it to the Hapes, NR, CSA, whatever, then that is different.
     
  21. KansasNavy

    KansasNavy Jedi Master star 4

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    I thought it said somewhere in DJ that the Chiss proper looked the other way when the Thrawn Phalanx gave them the techonology.

    Plus, the ships in HoT duology are beacon ships.
     
  22. GrandAdmPellaeon

    GrandAdmPellaeon Jedi Youngling star 1

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    It's as I said in my first reply to this; no, they are not the same ships.
     
  23. Valiento

    Valiento Jedi Knight star 7

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    Note were talking about the chiss' 28 system empire, a small fleet would be very small compared to the empire. The empire is much larger empire that spanned thousands of worlds, with an humoungous fleet.

    As well none of there ships have navi-computers they have to do all there travel by beacons(set around there empire's systems), which is one reason they don't leave there isolation much(except when they have to defend from an attack on them), and it's hard for them to get around outside of there empire without some form of beacon ship to give them moveable navigation.
     
  24. chissdude10

    chissdude10 Jedi Youngling star 5

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    Yes Val you shall listen to. Clawcrafts are hybrids of chiss/imperial technology. Since the chiss are almost as xeenophobic as the Yevetha, I highly doubt they would use such spacecraft.
     
  25. PrinceXizor

    PrinceXizor Former TF.N Foreign Book Cover Staff star 5 VIP

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    Okay, I noticed that a few months ago when I re-read HoT.

    Clawcraft : Fighter-class, TIE cockpit, 'Chiss' wings.

    HoT ships : Shuttle-class, can carry at least three persons (Luke, Mara & Artoo), 'Chiss' cockpit, TIE wings.
     
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