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Are Movie Novels Cannon?

Discussion in 'Star Wars Community' started by YoungPadawanLearner, Jul 21, 2002.

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  1. YoungPadawanLearner

    YoungPadawanLearner Jedi Padawan star 4

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  2. SirLancelot

    SirLancelot Jedi Padawan star 4

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    not ANOTHER cannon debate.

    yes the novelizations are considered cannon
     
  3. Commander Antilles

    Commander Antilles Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    Yes they are.
     
  4. Daughter_of_Yubyub

    Daughter_of_Yubyub Jedi Master star 6

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    Do you mean the novelizations? Either way, there are two definitions of cannon.

    One basically says "Anything that doesn't have an "Infinities" logo is cannon." According to that definition they most certainly are.

    The other definition says that "Only the movies are absolute cannon." If you use that definition, the novelizations aren't, although most consider them slightly more cannon than the rest of the EU.
     
  5. Nichos_Marr

    Nichos_Marr Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Canon

    Not Cannon :p

    Daughter of Yubyub has it right.

     
  6. SirLancelot

    SirLancelot Jedi Padawan star 4

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    i should correct myself, as long as they dont have an infinities mark on them they are.

    try to stear clear of the infinities comics unless you want to see a real screwey alternat universe type thing
     
  7. YoungPadawanLearner

    YoungPadawanLearner Jedi Padawan star 4

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    I wasn't trying to start a debate. I was just curious.





    Thanx for the input all, especially the correct spelling of CANON.
     
  8. Kwenn

    Kwenn Jedi Master star 5

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    Seeing as the movie novels and the movies share the same story, it's safe to say they are canon.
    Infinities definately isn't.
    Everything else kinda goes inbetween. You either consider it canon or you don't. But the movie books are.
     
  9. Master-Jedi-Smith

    Master-Jedi-Smith Jedi Padawan star 4

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    YoungPadawanLearner,

    Didn't I tell you to be careful about this subject?

    I'm pretty sure I did, because you have the same icon as I do.

    (Note: please disregard this if you didn't ask in a previous thread what cannon was. I'm too lazy to look back. :) )

    Latre! :D


    Edit: Okay, I looked back, and I did. Here it is.

    "Date Posted: 7/7 8:05pm Subject: RE: I have a stupid question

    Phew, I thought for a second that I made this tread. Then I saw the user name, and knew that I didn't.

    Canon: Touchy subject from what I have seen during my month+ time here.

    My advise, tread lightly when you think something might be canon, because there is always someone else who will tell you you are wrong.

    Latre! :D "
     
  10. YoungPadawanLearner

    YoungPadawanLearner Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Master-Jedi-Smith, yes you did warn me about this subject, I should have listened to you. well at least i'm getting experence out of this. :)
     
  11. Master-Jedi-Smith

    Master-Jedi-Smith Jedi Padawan star 4

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    You're learning my YoungPadawanLearner. ;)

    You're learning. :)

    Latre! :D
     
  12. Bib Fortuna Twi'lek

    Bib Fortuna Twi'lek Jedi Youngling star 10

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    They sure are. But just remember that they are on the same "officiality" level as any other piece of EU. Just keep that in mind.
     
  13. Jake_Barnes

    Jake_Barnes Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Not canon. Not "cannon" either.
     
  14. YoungPadawanLearner

    YoungPadawanLearner Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Thank You, Master-













    Jedi-Smith :)


     
  15. JediLord

    JediLord Jedi Master star 4

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    This is not meant to start a war, b/c we know my opinion on anon, but if the novels include deleted scenes, which i think we all agree are not canon, then doesn't that make the novelizations not canon?
     
  16. Bib Fortuna Twi'lek

    Bib Fortuna Twi'lek Jedi Youngling star 10

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    Why would the inclusion of extra scenes in a novel suddenly make it not canon? I don't see that clause anywhere in LFL's policy.
     
  17. JediLord

    JediLord Jedi Master star 4

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    This is not about a clasue. LFL doesn't tell me what to believe about SW.

    If a scene is deleted from the movie, like Obi Wan telling Luke about him and Anakin fighting and the lava pit, but that scene is cut from the film due to the fact that GL did not want to go with that part of the story, then if it is in the novel, that part of it cannot be canon. Not the whole novel, but that scene without a doubt.
     
  18. Jake_Barnes

    Jake_Barnes Jedi Padawan star 4

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    LFL's policy is not canon.

    :D
     
  19. Bib Fortuna Twi'lek

    Bib Fortuna Twi'lek Jedi Youngling star 10

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    If a scene is deleted from the movie, like Obi Wan telling Luke about him and Anakin fighting and the lava pit, but that scene is cut from the film due to the fact that GL did not want to go with that part of the story, then if it is in the novel, that part of it cannot be canon.

    Why not? PPOR.

    Not the whole novel, but that scene without a doubt.

    There is some doubt. Your views are totally different from LFL's policy.

    The policy clearly says that everything without an Infinities label is canon. You are free to agree or disagree with that as you choose, but it is the only policy we have on the subject, so there is no reason not to follow it.
     
  20. JediLord

    JediLord Jedi Master star 4

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    There is great reason to not follow it: B/C I disagree with it.

    I believe that in the Annotated Screenplays or somewhere else, I KNOW I have read that GL took that scene out b/c he did not want it to conflict with the prequel trilogy. I will look for a source, but I know someone can back me up on this one.
     
  21. Master-Jedi-Smith

    Master-Jedi-Smith Jedi Padawan star 4

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    You are welcomed my YoungPadawanLearner. ;)


    Another great example about what I was talking about right above this post, wouldn't you agree? :)


    Latre! :D
     
  22. YoungPadawanLearner

    YoungPadawanLearner Jedi Padawan star 4

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  23. YoungPadawanLearner

    YoungPadawanLearner Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Is this when one would say "up"?
     
  24. Master-Jedi-Smith

    Master-Jedi-Smith Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Once again, it depends on who you ask. :)

    Some would say that you only "up" it when it has sunk down a few pages.

    Others would say it is okay to do so whenever you think it needs to be.

    Others will do it for you if they like the topic.

    I say, why not, it's your thread! :D



    Latre! :D
     
  25. YoungPadawanLearner

    YoungPadawanLearner Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Then Up! I say! Up!
     
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