Are the One Sith really so mediocre?

LOL. Yeah, with a plan like that... there is no middle ground. Epic is right, and for either outcome.

 

And that, IMHO, is another point in favor of the whole tarnished prophecy point. You do the movies and the EU each a disservice. On the one hand, you can say that the movies are ruined because the Sith return. On the other, you can say that it's all right -- Krayt and co. are not nearly as badass, powerful, or skilled as Palpatine and co. which does nothing but make them look lame.

There were many ways in which Legacy could respect the plot of the movies -- which is far more essential and important than its own story -- while still coming up with something spectacular in its own right.

I feel that it has not done so, though not necessarily because of the prophecy.

 

Not really. Just because you say someone isn't nearly as badass as Palpatine doesn't mean they're weak.

 

That is true..

 

Palpatine was the greatest threat that ever has existed or will exist. So great that his coming caused the Force to unbalance, and the Force responded by creating the Chosen One to destroy him. It doesn't diminish Krayt's order to be second to that. Krayt's order can still be a threat on the same level as Revan's or the Sith Emperor's.

 

And there you have it.

 

Obviously, and I'm not saying that they have to be. Luke Skywalker's Jedi order is clearly not as powerful or as influential as the old Jedi order. But if it's a preconceived notion that the Sith are neutered entirely as a result of the Chosen One prophecy, that Palpatine was a once in a... um... existence? Sith and that he's the highest point that can be achieved, the subsequent villains look flaccid.

It's not about outdoing the things that came before, and I would agree that Palpatine is the greatest Sith in canon, but you want to try to strike new ground. It's a lot like Journey carrying on without Steve Perry; they have a right to continue and most people are glad they did, but you don't want them trapped in Perry's shadow.

 

Palpatine was arguably the greatest single Sith Lord, ever.
But Krayt's Sith, is quite powerful as a group.

Different methods for the same end.

 

Did you expect them to be as strong or influential as a 10,000 member order in a span of a several decades? They are powerful and smart enough for a new order of Jedi.

 

Actually, the EU gives strong evidence that man to man Luke's Jedi are stronger than the Old Order. Consider Anakin and Tahiri: at the beginning of the Yuuzhan Vong War Anakin is considered nearly a Knight, and Tahiri follows him a year later. By the time of Myrkr they've had six years of training and are capable of being effective frontline fighters without the need for supervision or constant guidance. I doubt that many 16-19-year-old Padawans were capable of the same during the Clone Wars.

 

Is Tano the only Padawan that the Clones call sir? Is she the only Padawan to lead Clones into battle, or fly a starfighter in combat? I'm not so sure...

 

So... is Emo Philips a Sith, or Jedi?

 

They called Anakin sir when he was still a Padawan, like they do with any other Padawan or Jedi during the war.

 

Right. That's my point, Rummy.
Troopers were answering to Jedi-kids during the CW.

Long before Luke and Tihiri were running around.

 

Not to Disrespect the One Sith or anything, I do agree that one of the problems of the One Sith is that they are working in a group..

 

Yes, because Luke's order numbers in the tens of thousands, possesses unimaginable political influence and a wealth of Force-related knowledge, and has survived twenty five thousand years of turmoil, war, and conflict (or if you want strict conservative numbers, a millennium)...

Oh wait...


I obviously struck a nerve with you, and I apologize for doing so, but your sarcasm is misplaced.

 

Sarcasm is what we do around here. You'll get used to it..

 

What would Lando do about ur new avatar?

 

Sarcasm's fine; as you can see, I responded in kind.

But that doesn't mean it can't be misplaced... the old Jedi Order was far larger, had a greater influence on galactic politics, and a far greater base of Force related knowledge and formal discipline.

Not that Luke's order is "lame" or anything.

 

I'm sorry its NOT a problem but its their strength...alot reason why i feel this order survives longer than Bane's Sith..With Two Sith Lords, there was always a possibility that both of them could be killed at the same time...

such as if Sidious & Dooku dueled w/Obi-wan,Anakin & Yoda in one of the many "Episode II" rough/fan drafts(i believe)..if the Jedi won..the Sith order woulda been erased..with the One Sith..

With Krayt being dead, you have an endless possibilities of successors to the throne..Wyyyrlock, Maladi, Stryfe, Nihl etc..all worthy to lead an army against the Jedi..So I love it..and its a different concept from the Bane Sith which is cool as heck!
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I wonder if the Jedi kill Wyyrlok's daughter, or if she's the one who comes in and saves Nihl and Stryfe?
Or will the "knocked unconscious" card get played with her?

 

Nothing.. It was time to switch to a new one for a bit.

 

Need to find Windu a decent cigar.

 

Any time the Sith gather, they feud. Its their nature. I doubt that the Sith could rule for very long regardless of their schemes. They will always turn on each other in the end.

I believe that the Sith are not meant to rule, but are simply Chaos incarnate.