Are the Sith allowed to love?

There is some contradictory information about this subject in ROTS. Palpatine mentions that Plageuis could save those he "cared" about... But why would a Sith care about anyone but himself?



He was just using that to lure Anakin into turning to the dark side. Plus, that is attatchment, to want to have your loved ones lived longer, which leads to the dark side.

 

It is not possible for Sith to love. If Sidious were to love, it might mellow him or distract him. If he allowed Vader to love, then Vader's loyalty would not be absolute. Granted, a Sith's loyalty might waver as he decides to overthrow his master single-handedly or with an apprentice. But if love is involved, that creates a better chance for an apprentice to become disloyal. Imagine a Sith Apprentice taking on his lover as an apprentice, presumably a Sith Witch, and then overthrowing the Sith Master. And even if Padme had not died and was not force-sensitive, we see Vader wanting to rule the galaxy with her, overthrowing Sidious, and presumably he would have made his child his apprentice. Except twins would interfere with the rule of 2. Finally, Vader out of love does kill Sidious. Not out of romantic, erotic, or marital love, but parental love that is unconditional.

In fact, as Qui-Gon put it, love is the key and the Sith do not know it.

 

I imagine the Sith are allowed to do whatever they want. =)

 

It would be difficult for them to find love. Evil personalities,and scary looks would not be flattering. But they could love,until their love became a threat.
In Vader's case they really could,they may even find redemption,because of love.

 

If siths are so evil, they will lose there love i mean look at anikan he loved padame since he was a kid and the second he becomes a sith he stragles her......

 

Probably, the Sith would be 'allowed' to love, but would have no need or desire to. And, having sworn your life to hate, can you really love?

 

I'm sure one could try, but it might be difficult.

Being self-centered doesn't necessarily make it impossible to love someone. Anakin is incredibly self-centered, yet he loves Padme (or at least thinks he does). The difference between him and a more self-effacing person is the way in which they feel love. Because Anakin is so self-centered, his main concern is that Padme be around for him to possess. He's not terribly interested in her well-being or the values she has as a person. Ultimately, this desire to utterly possess her combined with his paranoia is what causes him to lose her. However, maybe there would have been a way for him to balance his self-centeredness with an iota or two of concern for Padme as a person, and then he might have been able to maintain his love.

 

Every Sith Lord from Darth Bane to Darth Maul were raised from birth, practically, to become Sith Lords. Lucas confirms this when he says that because Maul got himself killed, Palpatine had to turn an established Jedi, instead of finding another child to train. Dooku turned to the Dark Side because of his attachment to Qui-gon and his dark desires for power. Dooku was turned and then Anakin was turned, thanks in part to Dooku.

Twisted logic. Just because Lucas says that Palpatine doesn't have time to raise another Sith Lord from scratch, does not imply that all Sith Lords are raised from birth. It says in Labyrinth of Evil that the Sith generally recruit from grown ups; the idea being that the Jedi have to purge anger and attachment from the earliest possible age, while the Sith thrive on it.

In any event, the "raised by Plagueis" theory falls down on one major issue - how did Palpatine become trusted and respected by so many people on Naboo. Being secreted away in a Sith environment is more than a bit of a stretch.

 

Truth, but we don't know how long Palpatine was the Naboo senator and he was already
of advanced age during Ep1. He proves his propensity for parallel lives throughout
the entire PT.

A Sith loved me once... once.

 

I believe Sith always have a little love with them, after all they seem very fond of themselves.

 

In all seriousness, seriously, i think love is vital for Sith. A twisted, greedy
derivative of love consumes them and drives them. power, control, possession, knowledge.
I mean, it's not like palpatine destroys the universe. he does bring order and
security. but as is so resonant today, people will not forgo liberty for security.
So Palpatine has to have some sort of love driving him, perverted though it has become.
I think his moments of grandfatherly compassion toward Anakin, while a manipulation,
do have seeds of an older love Palpatine once had.

 

Well that basicly somes it up, like what Anakin said about Sith using their emotions, and theirs not many emotions stronger then love.

 

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Look, if you think Sith can love, go read the ROTJ novel: Palpatine describes compassion as the soft underbelly of the Jedi.

Palpatine says no such thing. The narrator points that out and I believe he was demonstrating the siths point of view. I believe you are correct though. But I think that?s an element over looked by sith they see it as a weakness. Palpatine could not see Vader's betrayal but he could see that Vader had a weakness out of compassion. "I hope your feelings on this matter are clear? Lord Vader."

Another scene where Palpatine views compassion as a weakness is...

RETURN OF THE JEDI by James Kahn
PG. 98

"I have foreseen it, his compassion for you will be his undoing." Compassion had always been the weak belly of the Jedi, and forever would be. It was the ultimate vulnerability. The Emperor had none.

Clearly palps had a weakness his overconfidence and for his lack of judgment on compassion from his apprentice to his son Luke. I believe the SITHS POINT OF VIEW on compassion is a weakness, sure they are allowed to love but are they willing to pursue it should be the question. I say NO they are not willing. But I would not rule out the possibility. Because at one time the sith were a race of people not just a symbol for fallen jedi. They had to have been created some how? Or could they have found Plaguis power orginally.

 

The Sith use love and other emotions to fuel themselves. Thats what seperate them from the Jedi teachings and thats why Anikan became evil in the first place. He thought that if he turned to the darkside that he might be able to save Padme from dying.

 

They cannot love as "I love you" but they can desire. PLagueis' cared ones were probably people who served him a purpose, or people under his care (sidious).

I know Star Wars Tales is least canon of anything, but "The Apprentice" seemed a good story which could have happened, and it is made pretty clear that the Sith cannot love there

 

Dooku and Jocasta Nu were lovers. She knew what he was up to so altered the Jedi Library database. And yes she is old and nasty and I don't want to think about her naked either, but she is the right age for Dooku, so it makes sense in film. Supposedly this was explained further in a cut scene where they discuss "the lost 20".

 

My question is: Can the Sith love???

Is love even a concept they can comprehend? They only care about gaining power!

 

Sure they can, Vader anyone?

Dooku and Jocasta were lovers? Were does it say? (indeed a nasty image)

 

But Vader's love came at the cost of gaining 'POWER' in order to keep his dreams from coming true. And when Padme died he went on a power mad trip as well.

 

He was already a sith the last time he tenderly grabbed padme, therefore in my opinion yes, Ulic also, but deep down love, not hugging and kissing

 

Joining the Sith is like going to that cool Uncle's house that doesn't care if you spend the night, brings girls over, watch porn, and buys you beer when you're a teenager. No restraint. You get to do whatever the hell you want. When you join the sith you get to let your inhibitions run wild. That's the attraction of the sith... no restraint.

 

Good analogy...