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Are the true fans the ones that point out all the flaws or are they the ones that like the prequels?

Discussion in 'Archive: Attack of the Clones' started by sdj, Sep 13, 2002.

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  1. Jabbadabbado

    Jabbadabbado Manager Emeritus star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    "No wonder Lucas feels the need to live on a Ranch in a remote section of California. If I were him I'd put snipers on the roof to keep loonies like Jabbadabbado from carrying out their schizophrenic fantasies. It would have served John Lennon well."

    I'm not sure how threats of physical violence worked their way into this discussion, but that seems inappropriate to me.

    George Lucas is free to make any movie he wants, and I wouldn't dream of interfering with his "artistic vision." However, I simply feel he should be prohibited from putting he name "Star Wars" on anything else he does.

    And the PT enthusiasts finally need to understand that while their fandom is perfectly legitimate, it has nothing to do with "Star Wars."
     
  2. obhavekenobi78

    obhavekenobi78 Jedi Master star 5

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    TokyoXtreme,

    I agree. We all know that yet another Basher/Gusher thread was needed here. Barf.

    George Lucas sucks.

    No he doesn't you jerk he rules.

    Nope. He's a fool and so are you.

    Your momma.

    Your momma, idiot.

    That's really intelligent, you bastard!

    Oh, resorting to childish attacks are you Mr. Poopypants?

    Oh, and you aren't? Let's get back on topic. George blows.

    No he doesn't you jerk, he rules!

    :D
     
  3. The_Abstract

    The_Abstract Jedi Master star 4

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    "I'm not sure how threats of physical violence worked their way into this discussion, but that seems inappropriate to me"


    No more inappropriate than certain people calling for State power to intervene and "save" everybody from the "diabolical" George Lucas.


     
  4. anidanami124

    anidanami124 Jedi Master star 6

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    Well Forty-SixAnd2 and jabbadbbado you both proved my point you can't you bashers can't say or tell why you don't like the PT. you just say you don't.

    Forty-SixAnd2 there most be some reason you don't like the PT. give me some better hints as to why you don't not like not just the same old stuff. There also most be things you like about them to other wise why would yo go see them.

    Same with you jabbadbbado oh wait you won't tell any one why. forget I asked you.
     
  5. obhavekenobi78

    obhavekenobi78 Jedi Master star 5

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    Does this Crayola box of which you speak have a sharpener? I believe the OT crayons, did in fact have one, along with neat instuctive blurbs on how to use your crayons for shading and the like.
     
  6. Only_2

    Only_2 Jedi Youngling star 3

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    46 & 2 = Endboss sock. Lame, dude. get a life, go bother people somewhere else.
     
  7. anidanami124

    anidanami124 Jedi Master star 6

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    Oh one more thing just becaus esome one likes the PT that is on right for any of you bashers to say the fan of both PT and Ot are dumb.

    It was said be for we do see the flaws. but there small flaws they are very unimporten. So we don't care some one were I work she is in her 30's like the PT and OT why because she like SW. She does not care about the flaws in them why becasue that is not why we go see SW or any other movie for that matter. (That is if it's regian of fire then go had bash it because I that was all I say in that movie.)
     
  8. Jabbadabbado

    Jabbadabbado Manager Emeritus star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I've stated all my reasons for not liking the PT in many threads. I've given a fairly detailed analysis of the poor writing quality of the PT scripts. The biggest weakness of the PT is the amateurish quality of the dialogue. It doesn't hold up to the writing standards of the worst sitcoms. There's no known schema of "good writing" that can be employed to make AOTC's script look like the work of a skilled professional.

    But layered over that is the hit and miss acting, directing and editing.

    TPM has additional flaws that I've addressed in the TPM forum, including an overt pandering to a preschool audience without an honest attempt to make a movie for children.

    Both PT films evidence a betrayal of the visual style of the OT, a rejection of the OT's style of characterization and narrative impetus.

    There are so many more reasons why the PT, simply put, is not Star Wars. Without the "Star Wars" name attached to it, AOTC would have enjoyed all the success of "Eight Legged Freaks."
     
  9. Durwood

    Durwood Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    As far as I'm concerned, and again I'll go the extra mile to add the caveat that this is only my opinion, when Lucas made TPM he lost the moral authority and the artistic license to make "Star Wars" movies.

    This is the dumbest thing I've ever heard.
     
  10. anidanami124

    anidanami124 Jedi Master star 6

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    Then why in the name of God did you go see them. There most be something you like about the PT. other wise you would not have seen the TPM or AOTC.
     
  11. Durwood

    Durwood Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    It may sound harsh, but the fact is you're just too dense to notice the drop in quality and it needs to be said, in an effort to slap you awake.

    Somewhere in this personal attack is bound to be a meaningful argument, but I'll be damned if I can find it.
     
  12. obhavekenobi78

    obhavekenobi78 Jedi Master star 5

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    I thought they were pornos.
     
  13. anidanami124

    anidanami124 Jedi Master star 6

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    Hey Durwood your right. It is also funny that there was no areguemnet there
     
  14. Jabbadabbado

    Jabbadabbado Manager Emeritus star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    "Then why in the name of God did you go see them. There most be something you like about the PT. other wise you would not have seen the TPM or AOTC. "

    Like most people, I was suckered both times into thinking I was going to see a Star Wars movie. George fooled me twice so, yes, shame on me.
     
  15. Go-Mer-Tonic

    Go-Mer-Tonic Jedi Youngling star 6

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    I think a true fan is someone who is willing to share the saga with others like George Lucas. People who only care about what's in it for them go against some of the most fundamental thems of the saga, and have grown to stand against everything the saga stands for. Who gives a damn what they think? They may consider themselves fans (which is the only criteria I can think of for being a fan), but they are really just taking away from the communal experience for those of us who do not share their particular hangups.
     
  16. Master_Infamous

    Master_Infamous Jedi Youngling star 1

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    You must be lonely pointing out the flaws in both of the PT
     
  17. Durwood

    Durwood Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    People who only care about what's in it for them go against some of the most fundamental themes of the saga, and have grown to stand against everything the saga stands for.

    This certainly qualifies for my quote of the day!
     
  18. DarthTerrious

    DarthTerrious Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Gee I thought it was a Star Wars movie, not just by name either.

    You'll just see EP3 and bash that as well, and weren't you bashing AOTC before it had even came out?

    You obviously were going to hate it in the first place.
     
  19. anidanami124

    anidanami124 Jedi Master star 6

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    Go-Mer-Tonic: I like what you said.

    Master_Infamous: That was funny.
     
  20. Only_2

    Only_2 Jedi Youngling star 3

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    Hey Endboss sock, What's the matter, did you say something stupid in another thread and get banned?

    You seem to have a better knowledge of porno than of Star Wars. Wow, you are lame.
     
  21. Jabbadabbado

    Jabbadabbado Manager Emeritus star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    The Star Wars fans are a thriving community, so it's not lonely at all. The prequel fans may outnumber us, but the Star Wars fans are still a force to be reckoned with. :)

    Just to end this basher/gusher nomenclature that causes so much angst and frustration, let's just agree to call the gushers "Prequel fans" and the bashers "Star Wars fans".

    That way we can put an end to all the discord once and for all.
     
  22. rpeugh

    rpeugh Force Ghost star 4

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    Jabbadobo and fourtysix, and all you other PT bashers, please read my signature. Enough said.

    Any way, all PT bashers please read my post on page 1 of this thread. I have a response for every attack you could ever make on the PT.
     
  23. Only_2

    Only_2 Jedi Youngling star 3

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    Prequel fans are Star Wars fans. We can't outnumber ourselves can we? I'm gonna kick my ass for liking what I like.

    Somehow your logic is lost on me.
     
  24. anidanami124

    anidanami124 Jedi Master star 6

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    Jabbadbbado: Don't even call your self any SW fan. The person I now at work his liked them sense 77 and she likes the PT. Why becsuae they are SW. again like some one else said you most not have like both it came out.
     
  25. Jabbadabbado

    Jabbadabbado Manager Emeritus star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    It ought to be clear. "Prequel fans" love the prequel trilogy.

    "Star Wars fans" love the Star Wars trilogy.

    If you love the prequel trilogy and the Star Wars trilogy, it's ok to be a fan of both. Just say: "I'm a Star Wars fan and a Prequel fan, and I'm damn proud of it!"
     
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