Are there any black racists in the SW universe?

Anyone knows about black guys being racists toward aliens in SW?

 

Here's the thing.

Anthropologically speaking, race is a construct. The more people interact with others, the less significance the artificial distinctions have, which is why it's safer to describe people by vague skin shades in SW than anything else: in a galaxy where humans are just humans, there's little distinction between someone that looks like Queen Jamillia, and someone that looks like Mace Windu. When we're dealing with different sapient species out, there, race based on phenotype sort of becomes meaningless.

 

Yes, yes, April Fool's. Very clever.

 

No april silliness, i am serious about this.

 

Yes there will be some black Imperial characters, somewhere probably, you don't tend to see them.

 

I'm making a point of not asking.

 

I am not a racist. I think wouldnt have a Fisto icon if i would be one. I would use a Tarkin icon, or some imperial dude.

I was thinking this theme could be an issue of political correctness(possibly).

I didnt want to use the word african-american because there is no Africa in Star Wars.

 

Racism based on phenotype is fairly meaningless in a galaxy as diverse as the SW one. The closest I can think of to intra-human racism is the Summertime War, and that has more to do with ethnicity/nationality.

 

Just as long as we have an America...

 

I think he meant against...

...oh, I just can't be bothered.

 

Well...

As far as the novels, there isn't a lot of what we Earth-humans would recognize as racial/ethnic diversity among SW-galaxy humans. Before Mace Windu, Queen Jamilla and a handful of others, Lando was what I referred to as the "brown standard" and quite honestly as a brown girl I was kinda tired of that. I'm going to leave my comments at that because it's a sore point for me. It was a question I raised on this very board about, oh, nine years ago not too long after I signed up here (I think under my Red-gold 03 handle as I had lost the password for this one). The reaction from the posters at the time here ranged between, "Well, there's Lando" and "There are tons of non-humans" (because THAT is the same, right?) and "I don't know what we can do about that", the latter containing a significant amount of hostility that came close to essentially telling me to shut up and stop rocking the boat.

That's why I stopped posting here for a long time. Despite those reactions, I did connect with some other posters, one of which continues to be one of my best friends to this day. And that's all I have to say on this.

 

The mid 90's did give us Belindi Kalenda, don't forget her, but I do see where your coming from though. We just didn't have many prominate human characters with a different skin tone than Luke until the Prequels rolled around.

I always imagined Chin, from the Wild Karrde, as Asian as well. Though that might not have been the intent, maybe just my own misconception from his name.

 

Why would that be, because he has dreds and a Jamaican accent? (both at you and the makers of the Clone Wars 3D cartoon)

 

Ah yes, I remember Belindi. Notably, that she was described as cock-eyed or some such. (Can I put in a requisition order for a cock-eyed smilie face? Because that'd be awesome.)

Re: Chin. See, I thought the body part and immediately cast Bruce Campbell in the role. ETA: Although, Robert Z'Dar totally pwns BC in the chin department. Do an Google Image search on him if you don't know who he is and never watched MST3K.

 

This isn't as bizarre a question as you might think. Star Trek already has had at least one black character being profoundly bigoted against aliens. This is meant to show the irony of racism and how it can infect anyone I think.

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Sven - the humans in the SW universe, remember, don't have any concept of distinct races among humans in the Earth sense; skin tone (at least, those skintones found on Earth) is no more notable than hair or eye color. So, assuming you're using "racist" in the SW sense-- i.e., bigoted against other species-- then yes, there are probably plenty of dark-skinned Human racists.

Daala - while the novels are fairly whitebread, I've been pretty impressed with how ethnically diverse the comics are-- especially Legacy.

 

Well, when I play KotOR, I make Revan into a dark-skinned human as I think it makes him/her more interesting that way, as such characters are usually thought of as light-skinned by default. Plus I like it because light-skinned humans IMO are overdone, and I want to see more dark-skinned humans.

 

Really, baseline Humans ought to be a fairly uniform shade of medium brown, with ethnically-generic facial features; but I guess that'd get boring from a real-world standpoint.

 

But that irony is more appropriate to the Star Trek universe, which is an Earth-based future (our future) and all the nasty racial history (Trans-Atlantic slave trade, Jim Crow, etc) that comes along with it. The Star Wars universe has never (and I doubt ever will) show this type of history between lighter and darker skinned humans. SW's equivalent is, in my opinion, the history between humans and other sentient beings in the galaxy. I hope I explained this clearly, I'm a bit hungry and need to go forage.

 

True.

But the question is what effect this has on the reader more than what effect it has on the people in the Star Wars galaxy.

For example, I'm not sure it was a good idea to have a black Imperial Grand Admiral.

 

black guys being racists toward aliens in SW? What in the hell? Man, we have gotta fight now, kark it! Lemme explain something to you, cause you seem ignorant & I hate seeing you make a fool of yourself, it's not a good look!

When Mace Windu had to beat ass on that black 'lectroid Sora Bulq that used to be his former student, it wasn't cause he was a black man being racist against black aliens, it was because Mace had to put in check a black alien who was uncle tommin' for the Man, Count Bow Down to Me Brothers & Sisters Dooku!

When Lando Calrissian had white alien Ugnaughts doing all the menial labor in Cloud City, it was not cause Mr. Colt 45's was was making his alien overlord oppresors pay for 400 years of slavery, it was because the white alien Ugnaughts were homeless mooches that were rumaging thru Cloud City's trash anyways, Lando just gave them a paycheck for what they were already doing!

The Icecream maker brother in ESB did not steal the icecream thingy from from some white alien cause he was a racist, that white alien owed him 50 credits, dammit!

Now Mace Windu did hate on little Anakin Skywalker when he turned him down for wanting to be a Jedi, but that's cause he hates precoscious little cute kids, don't matter what color they are, they makes him sick!

Black Power, peace in the middle east & may the force be with you!

 

I'm sure it varies from world to world, continent to continent, population to population.