Amph Are Video Games an Art Form?

Discussion in 'Community' started by Likewater, Dec 5, 2012.

  1. tom Chosen One

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    this can only be an argument if what is art is subjective. in which case having this argument is stupid.
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  2. Rogue_Ten Chosen One

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    if u dont think heavy rain's An Art, watch this video:

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  3. Life Jedi Grand Master

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    The existence of glitches is an argument against games' ability to be an artform?
  4. Billy_Dee_Binks Force Ghost

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    That's a possible counter argu...JAAAAAAAAAAASOOONNN!

    :p
    Heavy Rain isn't the best example for a video game. It's too close to being a movie.
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  6. Rogue_Ten Chosen One

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    SHAUN! SHUUUAAANNN!!
  7. solojones Chosen One

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    As usual, what a well reasoned and intelligent argument rogue_ten.

    I didn't say it was necessarily the best example of a game as art. I don't think there's any such one example. I said that it was an example of what games can create experiencially that films can't.
  8. Life Jedi Grand Master

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    The film reel at the theater got curled up. It got curled uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuup!
  9. Ender Sai Chosen One

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    So, in this discussion, where do games like Microsoft Flight Simulator, or Codemaster's Formula 1 2010/11/12 fit into things?

    I agree wholly with the arguments put forward by Tim Schafer and later by Rogue 1.5 but I think you have a hard time arguing the point around pure simulations. And whilst games continue to challenge films for complex and intelligent narrative that doesn't insult the audience (honestly, look at the depth R* put into Grand Theft Auto IV and tell me that movies manage this on balance?) I struggle to see how we could classify simulators in the same vein.
  10. Rogue_Ten Chosen One

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    actually, bolojones, there is such an example its called shadow of the colossus
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  11. I Are The Internets Chosen One

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    I forgot how bad the voice acting was in that game. Yeah the graphics were really good, but most of the characters sounded like Tommy Wiseau.
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  13. Rogue_Ten Chosen One

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    its because they're all french
  14. I Are The Internets Chosen One

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    I knew that. I mainly didn't like the V.A. because their accents would slip at crucial emotional points. It's not a terrible game. I had fun while playing it. Or watching it.
  15. Rogue_Ten Chosen One

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    shadow. of the *************. colossus.

    close thread. its over
  16. Likewater Force Ghost

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    [IMG] ?

    colossus' shadow?
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  17. Life Jedi Grand Master

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  18. Rogue1-and-a-half Manager Emeritus who is writing his masterpiece

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  19. Likewater Force Ghost

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    Someone compaired Modern Military Shooters to shlock...but I have rearly hear Military and Shlock being associated. Is it the simplistic narrative and the "hand holding" I think its called.
  20. solojones Chosen One

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    I finally own it since it's been released on PS3, but I haven't had a chance to play it yet. Still, I don't believe in the existence of a 'best' anything for any one medium.
  21. Billy_Dee_Binks Force Ghost

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    if games are an art form, does that mean game designers like MDickie should be considered creators of Outsider Art?