Are we as fans too greedy for Star Wars?

Discussion in 'Star Wars Community' started by Darth Xalfrea, Feb 20, 2013.

  1. Darth Xalfrea Jedi Grand Master

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    In recent years, and during that period when the prequels were still new, I've seen a lot of hatred and angst because of the ruination of Star Wars. Specifically I've seen people state that they ruined "MY" vision of Star Wars. Common prequel criticisms I've seen is how they're not what viewers have imagined it.

    Therefore, could it be possible that we as a fandom are greedy when it comes to Star Wars? How we hate certain aspects because WE as fans don't like it? MY vision this, MY Star Wars that, MY ideas and so forth, ME ME ME ME?

    Are we pretty much like those birds from Finding Nemo? Flying around forums and George Lucas whining how it's unlike OUR Star Wars? The Star Wars that is MINE MINE MINE MINE MINE MINE MINE?
  2. Sistros Force Ghost

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    no..

    we all have our ideas and opinions

    we are vocal about sharing them that's all

    intelligent men debate

    not so intelligent men stay silent being spoonfed
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  3. Darth Xalfrea Jedi Grand Master

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    That would be good, if many of those "intelligent" men were actually debating and not whining and complaining. Then again, maybe it's because I've rarely seen, if ever, people actually being mature about the subject and not being so uncivilized.
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  4. Sistros Force Ghost

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    we're humans, we tend to do that a lot,

    Star Wars is unique

    it has fans of all ages, from all walks of life,

    there are going to be varying degrees of opinions,

    if that is whining at least they've come to the right place to moan about it

    where do you expect them to go?

    a trek board?

    a glee fanclub? :p
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  5. Darth Xalfrea Jedi Grand Master

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    Yeah, but at least on here, there's an equal amount of prequel supporters that balance it out.

    The worst of the lot tend to flock around places like Youtube and Facebook, where the prequel and Lucas supporters get drowned by all the Finding Nemo seagull Star Wars fans that constantly shout MINE MINE MINE MINE MINE MINE MINE MINE MINE.

    But I dunno. This falls into that age-old debate on what dictates the story: the storyteller or the fans. Do fans have a right to criticize what a storyteller ultimately wants to make? Should that storyteller even listen to its fans, or should they not?
  6. Mirax Terrik Chosen One

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    Fans have a right to criticize whatever they want. Ultimately we're the ones that are consuming the story. As far as the storyteller, I don't think they SHOULD have to listen. Ultimately it's their story to tell however they like.
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  7. Valairy Scot Force Ghost

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    Great question.

    Art is in the hand of the storyteller. "Successful" art is when the fans "buy" in, in all senses of the word, what the artist created.
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  8. Sistros Force Ghost

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    well to be honest I don't tend to take any notice of anyones comments on youtube, so i wouldn't know what "witty" comment they come up with that goes unmodded


    fans have a right to critisize anything they want to

    it's in the public domain, it's a work of art..


    it crosses the line when it becomes personal attacking the artist himself (this case Lucas)
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  9. Darth Xalfrea Jedi Grand Master

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    And this is where I feel many cross that line too much.

    The ever-so-classic "Rape my Childhood" for example.
  10. benknobi1 Chosen One

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    <---- I love Star Wars. Does that make me greedy ? In a sense I suppose, but I wouldn't have it any other way.
  11. Darth Xalfrea Jedi Grand Master

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    Greedy in a sense that we dislike what is given to us. Whining like little brats to mommy and daddy Internet because we do not get what we want in the toy aisle.
  12. benknobi1 Chosen One

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    So, if I understand correctly, you think that too many Star Wars fans complain about Star Wars not being as they want it to be... correct ?
  13. Mirax Terrik Chosen One

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    Personal attacks are pretty low. I think it's easy for people to go overboard with the comparative anonymity of the internet.

    What's wrong with disliking something? Everyone has an opinion. I really don't understand what you're arguing anymore.
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  14. Darth Xalfrea Jedi Grand Master

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    Yeah, right on the ball there.

    Disliking to the point where it's taken to an extreme, like personal insults or, as I said previously, complain about ME ME ME, MY vision, etc.

    It should be reminded that these people who whine about their vision of Star Wars had their vision given to them by the original storyteller. So why go contrary to what the storyteller wants to tell when its his/her prerogative? It's like people complaining why Luke didn't kill Vader and ultimately triumph over the bad guy. Or why Anakin was so angelic when he was a kid. Or why Obi-Wan didn't just kill Anakin on the spot.
  15. benknobi1 Chosen One

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    Perhaps there are some Star Wars fans that whine and complain, but I do not accept that we, (Star Wars fans as a whole) are too greedy/behave like this.
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