i agree with what people have written about under 16`s going to events, i have three kids myself, and i always make sure that i know where they are and who they are with. easier said than done sometimes. when they go away with the school we have to sign consent forms etc, so these things are a good idea. with regards to this space centre day, i think that Dave has done the right thing and let us all know that something is coming up, admittedly he may have jumped the gun a tad, but the sooner we know about trips and events, the sooner we can all make concrete arrangements etc. with regards to my current personal situation, who knows what i will be doing in november? but as soon as i know what i am doing i can book the time off (hopefully) and make the event, and more than likely my kids will be coming too. i don`t think that Dave has done any wrong by "letting the cat out of the bag" at this point, as it`s no good trying to make arrangements with just a couple of weeks to go before events. would it really have hurt to make a thread about it officially so that it can be discussed and arranged well in advance, and within the "official" thread post that arrangements are being made with the UKG? why can`t we post about events that are coming up? not everyone is aware of the protocol involved with going through CR`s and RSA`s (especially with Mark currently out of the picture), but now we are all clear on this, i am sure that we will go by the book in future.