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JCC Are YOU a lady? Are you?

Discussion in 'Community' started by Everton, Nov 4, 2015.

  1. SithSense

    SithSense Force Ghost star 4

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    I'm relatively sure that I am not a lady.

    If I am a lady, then I am one hell of a lesbian. :D
     
  2. Sauntaero

    Sauntaero Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    A real lady need not be offended by a toffs' magazine list of attributes that comes down to "manners" and sometimes outdated skills. I didn't understand either list to be gender-proscriptive. It's refreshing to see these things are still valued in some circles. Can we all just be nice humans, please?
     
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  3. anakinfansince1983

    anakinfansince1983 Skywalker Saga/LFL/YJCC Manager star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    Ramza and I have the same taste in classic-lit men. :cool:
     
  4. GrandAdmiralJello

    GrandAdmiralJello Comms Admin ❉ Moderator Communitatis Litterarumque star 10 Staff Member Administrator

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    Eh I disagree completely. I think it's a pretty tacky list. Compare it to a good modern etiquette book (yes, I read etiquette books) and you'll see a distinct difference. They accomplish the focus on manners and decency without the implication that people are inadequate for not following a specific and -- yes, gender prescriptive -- list of norms.

    If the list is for lulz, as Everton suggests, that's one thing. If we're actually considering it praiseworthy that's another matter :p


    Missa ab iPhona mea est.
     
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  5. Everton

    Everton Chosen One star 10

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    Honestly. Here comes a first, and hopefully last, serious post. There is absolutely no implication that that anyone is inadequate for not conforming to the list. The only implication is that if you happen to conform to a few of them, you're probably a decent sort (remembering that everything else you have about you is just as valid). The list is not gender-prescriptive. Neither list is. Neither are they intended to be taken entirely seriously. There are points on both that are simply good manners - these should apply to everyone and are to be taken seriously. Indeed it is refreshing that the things espoused in the lists are still valued. There are also points that lightheartedly skewer gender roles in particular social circles (which, incidentally, isn't anything like as small a circle as you'd think reading the posts in this thread - remember we are not a representative sample of society). But none are definitive statements about you, about women in general, or attacks on your own freedom of expression. The magazine even states that the lists are part serious and part tongue-in-cheek. And yet, the (predictable) reaction on here was... well... predictable. My amusement at that reaction? Well it isn't drawn from the fact that many women disagree with the contents (this is entirely their prerogative, as nobody is the same), but from the broad inability of too many people to process something in the spirit it is intended.
     
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  6. GrandAdmiralJello

    GrandAdmiralJello Comms Admin ❉ Moderator Communitatis Litterarumque star 10 Staff Member Administrator

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    Well, like I said it's all good so long as nobody's actually taking it seriously :p I agree that it's funny in part.

    I just, for that very reason, wouldn't take it too seriously as a defense of good manners.


    Missa ab iPhona mea est.
     
  7. poor yorick

    poor yorick Ex-Mod star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA VIP - Game Host

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    I have flunked both the gentlemen's and ladies' lists. I want a long list of criteria determining whether or not I am a child. I bet I'd score really well on that list.
     
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  8. Ender Sai

    Ender Sai Chosen One star 10

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    The reactions are the best bit though. It's 1 part confusion mixed with three parts indignation and 2 parts outrage.
     
  9. Harpua

    Harpua Chosen One star 9

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    Actually, I think most of the posts in this thread are collectively lampooning this list. I haven't seen any legit outrage or indignation.
     
  10. Diggy

    Diggy Chosen One star 8

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    Indignation is word undersay doesn't understand. Like genocide.
     
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  11. EmpireForever

    EmpireForever Force Ghost star 8

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    You guys know what trolling is, right? Or have you forgotten in your severe old age?
     
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  12. anakinfansince1983

    anakinfansince1983 Skywalker Saga/LFL/YJCC Manager star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    This thread has been ****ing hilarious.
     
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  13. Darth Punk

    Darth Punk JCC Manager star 7 Staff Member Manager

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    I once shagged an accountant who excelled while lovemaking
     
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