Around the Arena (Qualifying Game 1 Started, Topic 1 Posted)

Discussion in 'Archive: The Arena' started by DarthIntegral, Jun 25, 2007.

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  1. rechedelphar Force Ghost

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    yeah i had forgotten than Gaffney went on to win state, i was thinking of Spartanburg for some reason. But if a team like Mauldin would have beaten Byrnes then we would be talking huge
  2. whiteeagle Force Ghost

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    I dont believe it was a panic move. Its a smart move actually. Look at the schedule its the last game of the series, they get a day off today and go to colorado for a 3 game series, day off then off to face the dodgers. I'd be more concerned with my ace pitching at Colorado than on 3 days rest. He made a gamble, his gamble didnt pay off. But this lines up Peavy too rest for a full five days then start the series opener against the Dodgers. I think thats more good managing than anything else.

    Why not roll out your ace and try and steal one on the road? I like it, its a gutsy move by the manager saying I'm not comfortable with any lead I want to win every game. Now granted he would be ludicrious if he went with Peavy on 3 days rest the rest of the season but he looked at the schedule saw a gamble and took it. I applaud him.
  3. DarthIntegral Force Ghost

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    Rogue with the traditional answer, whitey with the convoluted (but aggressive) answer. I like when we think outside of the box. Good information on the schedule. Not sure I'd ever agree with doing what they did, and I'm not sure you believe your argument, whitey, but you get the point anyways.

    That ties us up, and makes this question for all the marbles:

    <img src="http://www.sportingnews.com/archives/conlon/wagner/images/honus1.jpg">
    Honus Wagner makes the rare news, as his baseball card sells for $2.8 million. That's million. With an m. And a pinky. Tell me, what piece of sports memorabilia would you pay $2.8 million dollars for, assuming you had the money to spend?

    Let's go Around the Arena one last time and go to whiteeagle first ...
  4. whiteeagle Force Ghost

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    I would say the ball that Hammerin' Hank hit to pass Babe Ruth. You know a great individual who broke a historic record. And you know he played the game the right way, a stand up individual, and i would gladly display that piece of memorabilia in my own.
  5. Rogue...Jedi Administrator Emeritus

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    whitey's got a point, and that ball would be worth a lot to have... but even for that, $2.8 million? That is an absolutely ridiculous amount of money, especially to pay for something like a baseball card. Actually, its too much to pay for any piece of sports merchandise or memorabilia. If I had to spend that much money on sports, though, I'd use some of it to get tickets to big sporting events - national championships, World Series, Final Four, etc - and then use the rest to help sponsor teams for youth leagues for underpriviliged kids that wouldn't get a chance to play sports otherwise. A much better use of that kind of money in my opinion than getting any card or ball that you won't do anything with besides display it for show.
  6. DarthIntegral Force Ghost

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    Well, neither of you did great on that question. whitey went way too predictable, while Rogue didn't even give me a piece of memorabilia. Still, he made a great point on what a waste of money it would be. So, the point, and the game, go to Rogue...Jedi.

    Enjoy your week of colors, and your facetime.
  7. Boomer_Athena Jedi Master

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  8. Kyptastic VIP

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  9. s65horsey Otter-loving Former EUC Mod

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    YAY!!!

    Congrats Rogue...Jedi!!!!!!

    =D=
  10. Rogue...Jedi Administrator Emeritus

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    First, thanks to everybody who participated in this, there were a lot of good arguments and discussions that I really enjoyed reading, even in the games that I wasn't involved in personally. Also, thanks to Inty for a lot of good questions, even if I didn't like the last one, which is why I didn't even have a piece of memorabilia :p

    An odd topic, but I heard part of a discussion the other day on TV about trying to balance the baseball schedule, which there has been a fair amount of talk about the last couple of years, because some teams - especially in interleague play - end up seeing all the best teams from the other league while others play the bottom teams in the league. Is it fair? No, its not. But is it as easy to correct as some people seem to think? Without cutting interleague play entirely, which I don't suggest, its not easy at all. A proposal suggested on TV in that discussion: Every team plays every team in the other league for one 3-game series, and two home and two away series with every team that is in the same league but a different division, and "12-13 games" with each team in the same division (which is really the same as 2 home/2 away series). Lets look at this from the perspective of one team, in this case Atlanta (or any team in the NL East, the only distinction being how many teams in the league and division). There are 14 AL teams, playing each for 3 games would be 42 games right there. There are 16 NL teams, 5 in the East, and 11 not in the East, so thats 11 teams for the 2 home/2 away series, which would be 12 games apiece, another 132 games right there... except now we're up to 174 games to be played, without even getting to teams in the same division, which would add about 50 more (2 division teams at 12 and 2 at 13). Net result, you would need a schedule of over two hundred games (224 in this case) for that solution to work, which is ridiculous. The season is long enough as it is, one thing it does not need is lengthening.

    In short, would people (aimed at TV people here) please think their proposals out before claiming to have a perfect solution?
  11. DarthIntegral Force Ghost

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    Good game, Rogue. Well played. Good game to all, actually. Lots of good stuff in this game. I really enjoyed it.

    So, time for feedback:

    Do we want to keep this in the rotation?

    If so, what do we want to tweak?

    What worked, what didn't?
  12. Rogue...Jedi Administrator Emeritus

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    I'd say keep it in the rotation, with few changes, if any.

    It seemed to work pretty well, especially in the last game with the extra time helping encourage more discussion and back and forth than in previous games. Maybe have that extra time as well in the first games as well, see if that continues to work well, but thats about all I can think of.
  13. Boomer_Athena Jedi Master

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    I'd like to see ongoing games, the single competition lasted a few months, so it's not like it would get stale like some games that start and end all the time.
  14. Kyptastic VIP

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    This could quite easily be an ongoing game - because you only need 4 people to play it each time, you'd be hard pressed to run out of participants. Perhaps a weeks break between each round (the time period the winner has colours for). I'd also suggest that people can't play 2 games in a row, to try and keep the game different.
  15. DarthIntegral Force Ghost

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    Well, do we want to make this an ongoing game? Is there enough interest in that? If so, Rogue's colors just expired, so we can start a new game up. I'm up to host again, as long as there's interest. This would also then be a last chance to have any tweaks to the game brought up.
  16. s65horsey Otter-loving Former EUC Mod

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    I'd play again. I'd rather play during football season though, cuz we all know how much I suck at pretending to know baseball.
  17. Rogue...Jedi Administrator Emeritus

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    You mean talking about the Red Socks? :p ;) Sorry, I really got a kick out of that.

    I'll be up for it again, going to have to be careful to make sure I have time amongst school work right now, though. At least a lot of it right now has me sitting at my computer, but that won't always be the case.
  18. DarthIntegral Force Ghost

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    let's go ahead and get this going. I think Kyp is right about this being an on-going game. It's good for discussion, and we can get a lot of users involved. So, let's go:

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  19. Rogue...Jedi Administrator Emeritus

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    A lot of other stuff going on, but I should still have time for this.

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  20. DarthIntegral Force Ghost

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    It's good to see that the champ is back to defend his title ...
  21. Armenian_Jedi Force Ghost

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    1. Rogue...Jedi
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    here to take Rogue's title [face_skull]
  22. tulakhordpwns Jedi Knight

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  23. rechedelphar Force Ghost

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    1. Rogue...Jedi
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  24. Armenian_Jedi Force Ghost

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    TIME TO BEGIN. YOU WILL ALL KNOW DEFEAT.
  25. DarthIntegral Force Ghost

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    I was unexpectedly OOT today. I'll get a topic up sometime tomorrow, probably a.m. my time.
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