Hmmm, will try to find out. I think maybe the prob is Heathrow Express is train and not to do with the underground, but you can get the underground from Heathrow but takes longer - and will be included in a zone 1-6 travelcard. I have a feeling if you used the Express and then zones 1-4 it'd be more expensive than a straight zone 1-6 travelcard. The prob with meeting FF-UK North straight away will be this - you will arrive at Kings Cross maybe around same time (and that's probs less than likely), dependant on how long customs deal with you and then you head towards Paddington where I'll meet you, they will be heading towards ExCel at 4pm straight away (they have a table to set up). Your hotel is just outside Kings Cross, so I guess you need to book in and dump your bags. If you want I can wait there for you, and then head to ExCel with you to meet the FF-UK North? Sie says he can make his own way and take em to ExCel. I am booked into Ibis with them, but will have to pick my bags up from PTI (lol, yeah tis confusing). That sound ok? I don't think timing wise we'll get to meet FF-UK North at Kings Cross.