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Amph At The Movies (film discussion thread)

Discussion in 'Community' started by DarthMane2, May 23, 2015.

  1. Rylo Ken

    Rylo Ken Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    Certainly no reason to object to a Disney/Fox combinedosaurus now that the $85 billion ATT/TimeWarner is a go. Throw the end of net neutrality into the mix. We're most likely heading toward some kind of even more pronounced infotainment indentured servitude in which we "choose" one of two possible providers who will force feed us content for life, with our children involuntarily inheriting that contract for life as they join the media consumption peasantry.
     
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  2. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    It's called Disney World.
     
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  3. 3sm1r

    3sm1r Jedi Knight star 3

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    Any fan of Paul Thomas Anderson here?
     
  4. DarthMane2

    DarthMane2 Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Yes
     
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  5. 3sm1r

    3sm1r Jedi Knight star 3

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    Did you enjoy The Phantom thread?
    I loved it, even though my favourite is still There will be blood.
    I love how new layers of interpretations of his movies come to mind with time. It's beautiful.
     
  6. Sith_Sensei__Prime

    Sith_Sensei__Prime Chosen One star 6

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    I like the Creed II trailer, although I'm not sure about the motivation of Adonis wanting to fight the son of Drago. Speaking of Drago, that just more nostalgia milking, like the stars and stripes boxer trunks, which worked on me.


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    Not surprised that Disney counter offered Comcast's bid. I'm not sure if Comcast will return the favor.

    Of course, I'm only interested in this because of the Marvel properties.
     
  7. Ahsoka's Tano

    Ahsoka's Tano Jedi Master star 5

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    The Drago tease is the real compelling part of the trailer. Rocky IV had its moments, and the Drago/Creed scene was certainly tops.
     
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  8. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    Revenge? He can't fight Ivan. And if he backs down from this Drago it'll feel like he's letting a Drago defeat another Creed.
     
  9. TiniTinyTony

    TiniTinyTony Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    Does any use Movies Anywhere to watch movies? I connected to all the vendors: Vudu, iTunes, PrimeVideo, FandangoNow, and Google Play. As a gift for connecting, you were given free movies like The Incredibles, Lego Movie, etc. That was an old promo, not sure if it's still availble, but I did see that there is a current promotion if you connect your Vudu account, you get Bridesmaids for free.

    Anyway, with the Movies Anywhere app on my Amazon Fire Stick I can see and watch all these free movies. So no issue there.

    So I rented Black Panther on FandangoNow and for some reason rented movies don't show up in the Movies Anywhere app. I don't understand why. Unfortunately there is NOT a FandangoNow app for the Fire Stick or the Playstation 4 and I don't have a Smart TV so I've hit a road block.

    My last option and only option I have left is to play on my laptop and connect that to my receiver via HDMI. Anyone else run into problems with this platform? They don't make it easy for you.
     
  10. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    AMC is launching a Moviepass competitor option.

    Looks to be more reasonable, stable and broader in application, even if it's limited to a single chain. I will probably end up using this one, even though I'll have to drive a little further compared to my usual one (or suffer the Dine-In AMC that's closer).
     
  11. TiniTinyTony

    TiniTinyTony Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    From what I've read, I'd give a slight edge to MoviePass because it's half the cost, you're not married to a location, and movies are essentially unlimited.

    MoviePass
    1) $10 / month
    2) a movie a day so 7 a week if you were so inclined
    3) no repeats (but if you really wanted to be unethical, you could buy a ticket to X and go see Y)
    4) no commitment
    5) IMAX and 3D - thumbs down

    AMC Stubs A-List
    1) $20 / month
    2) 3 movies a week
    3) repeats are allowed
    4) 3 month commitment
    5) IMAX and 3D - thumbs up
     
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  12. grd4

    grd4 Jedi Master star 4

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    Just watched Paul Schrader's First Reformed. Best film I've seen in years. Naturally, because it approaches faith in provocative, ambiguous and genuine terms, it won't--as was the case with Calvary and Scorsese's Silence--receive any serious nominations from the Academy next year. Watch this anyway. It's a masterpiece.
     
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  13. Sith_Sensei__Prime

    Sith_Sensei__Prime Chosen One star 6

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    But wasn't that the point of Rocky IV, to allow Rocky to avenge Apollo? And then it was all resolved with Rocky defeating Drago and the winning over the Russian crowd. It seems like an ego thing with Adonis, which as part of the original Creed film, in that he didn't want to be known as "Baby Creed." Now, it seems like another ego thing. I don't know, but the cinematography does look good, and it appears they'll be building up the fight quite well.


    I'll be moving over to Movies Anywhere soon. Right now, I'm using both Vudu and PrimeVideo from streaming movies that I own. I don't like my Amazon Fire Stick because of it's limited app store, and therefore been using Google's Chromecast for Vudu. It's a better experience as you can use your phone as a remote to find, select and play movies on your TV. My brother is currently using Movies Anywhere with his Chromecast and been highly recommending it to me. I've just been too lazy to look into on how to do this.

    Yeah, from what I understand, MoviePass, is not sustainable and would have probably gone out of business within a few months. Additionally, I heard they were requiring their clients to take photos of their ticket stubs as proof their clients weren't abusing them. Supposedly, MoviePass was willing to lose money in order to attract enough users to leverage and force movie theater chains to cut them in on revenue from ticket sales and concessions.

    I prefer AMC theaters because most of their theaters in my neck of the woods are newer and have been renovate. Plus they provide self serve butter for your popcorn, but Cinemark is the closest theater chain near my house, and I signed up with their subscription for $8.99 a month. However, AMC's plan is better, as Cinemark subscription only covers 1 movie a month and 20% discount at the concession stand, but all other films will come with the $8.99 price (excluding their XD and luxury screens, which has an upcharge of like $2-$4) and no online ticket purchasing fees.

    I like that theater chains are becoming more of a subscription base model, because of the raising costs of movie tickets. Especially nowadays with advance ticket sales and that more and more US theater chains are offering assigned seating. It makes the theater going experience cheaper and easier.
     
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  14. Master_Lok

    Master_Lok Force Ghost star 6

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    Yeah, AMC would probably be something I would do eventually, especially since I like to repeat movies I enjoy. As much as I dislike some of their theatres, that's a good plan. I hope they still have this later this year or early next when I would probably be in a better place to commit to it.

    Will be interested in hearing if you do go ahead with AMC afterall and what you think of it.

    Thanks for breaking that down.
     
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  15. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    The Film About the Man Who Killed Don Quixote Lives.

    Looks like Gilliam didn't lose the rights like was reported previously, as no frame of footage was filmed under the disputed contract. However, Gilliam does need to pay an $11.6k fine. But after that, he can seek a distributor.


    Unrelated to the above, but I saw this article about Fox shifting it's upcoming lineup a bit and it got me thinking about how, assuming the Disney deal is approved and Disney ceases using the 20th Century Fox branding for certain franchises, we are starting to approach/see on the horizon the coming of the final Fox-branded film.

    It's got me wondering what the final Fox film will be. Obviously we know for certain until we know when that deal goes through and current productions/distributions play out, but it is something to start thinking about.

    MoviePass is cheaper but the no-premium thing basically renders the cost difference a moot point and severely limits your options (since most new releases are most likely going to have the majority of their showtimes in an IMAX, RPX, 3D, Atmos, etc theater) even if you ignore the random times they've pulled "you can't use our service to see this movie" stuff.

    Add to that MoviePass constantly changing their pricing structures like the supposed $2 extra fee they're proposing for popular movies (ie: blockbusters on opening weekend) or how they only offered annual memberships a couple months ago (seriously, I almost signed up in Feb for MP but the monthly plan wasn't available, just the annual plan. And considering how, at the time this happened, you had constant news reports about how MP was expected to fold from all the money they were losing, there was no way in hell I was going to give them $120).

    With MoviePass now saying they require $1.2 billion of additional capital in order for the service to become profitable in conjunction with them struggling to avoid being dislisted from the Nasdaq, in conjunction with them losing $30-45m a month, I really don't expect them to be around too much longer.

    That said, if they keep monthly plans available then it might be worth it to sign up for a couple months on top of the AMC program. Combined, that's $30 and $30 is still the cost of two movie tickets. If there's enough titles coming out in a given month, using the AMC for most of them and the MP for any extras/misc theater locations might be worth it.

    But I think that would probably be most applicable to the Oscar season (since you'd need theoretically more than 12 movies in a month to make that approach needed), so MP still has a ways to go before then... if it lasts.
     
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  16. JediVision

    JediVision Jedi Knight star 2

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    So, about ten years ago I took a film history class in junior college. One of the movies we watched was Battleship Potemkin. This is one of those movies that's not a movie your average moviegoer is likely to be familiar with but in cinephile circles is considered one of the greatest or most influential movies of all time. It's especially famous for its "stairs sequence."



    Well, an incredibly convoluted series of events which I'm not going to recount here has brought me and my girlfriend to Odessa, Ukraine, and as I walked about the city center the first day I was here, I noticed on the tourist-friendly map of the city something near the harbor called the "Potemkin Stairs." Wait...stairs....Potemkin...could it be?

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    Yes, indeed!
     
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  17. gezvader28

    gezvader28 Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    apparently DePalma pretty much copied it in The Untouchables
     
  18. JediVision

    JediVision Jedi Knight star 2

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    Well, that was a tribute/homage, not a rip-off.
     
  19. MrZAP

    MrZAP Jedi Master star 5

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    Yeah, a lot of directors homage that scene. The Untouchables one is almost a shot-for-shot remake though IIRC.
     
  20. Ramza

    Ramza Administrator Emeritus star 8 VIP - Former Mod/RSA VIP

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    No, they're almost completely different in terms of visual presentation.



    Funnily enough IFC posits that the scene isn't an homage but an attack on the concept of montage precisely because of how differently it's done.
     
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  21. TiniTinyTony

    TiniTinyTony Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    The wife and I watched The Maltese Falcon last night. It's definitely one of those classics that still stand the test of time. It's funny how much tension is added to a scene while someone is dialing an old rotary phone or while someone is rolling and then lighting a cigarette. Nothing comes to mind in present day cinema where that is repeated. Usually tension is added now with a musical cue. I think we definitely need less action packed CGI spectacles and long car chases and more actors acting or reacting to a scene to ground it more to reality.
     
  22. DarthMane2

    DarthMane2 Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    DarthMane2 Jedi Grand Master star 5

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  24. Sith_Sensei__Prime

    Sith_Sensei__Prime Chosen One star 6

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    Just based on that photo, Taratino's "Once upon a time in Hollywood" is looking good.
     
  25. gezvader28

    gezvader28 Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    I thought it was a Persuaders! remake .
     
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