I'm glad there's some interest in the book club; there's mountains upon mountains of material that's been written about what science is, why we should or shouldn't do science, how we ought to think about science, and the like, and I think it'll be fun to talk about it on the boards. Or I'll just have an excuse to read the stuff. Either works for me, it's a bit manipulative. That's definitely true, but in my meager defense I wasn't thinking about any one person in particular when I was writing my rambling diatribe up there, I was commenting on a more general trend I'd noticed on the various sites I peruse that I've had bitter, dismissive opinions about for a while now. Though I was absolutely getting particular with reference to that stupid cat in a room image from the Theism/Atheism thread, because ugh. Ugh. Nine times out of ten my thought process on these things is that I jump immediately to frustration, then try to back off that teeth grinding level because, really, should I expect everyone to have massive amounts of formal education in Topic X? But then while I'm writing a response I get frustrated again and it's ultimately a vicious cycle. I think that's an unfortunate place to be in so I'm trying to rectify it. I might fail, that's life.