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Balance to the Force? (Here's what I think)

Discussion in 'Prequel Trilogy' started by sky_walker1029, Jun 6, 2005.

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  1. sky_walker1029

    sky_walker1029 Jedi Youngling

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    This is something I know probably has been covered but this is my opinion and I just wanted to see what everyone thought about it. It was said that Anakin would bring balance to the force. My belief is that he did so when he killed the emperor in ROTJ, not when he turned to the dark side. Ultimately he turns on his master and I believe, restores the balance to the force that the Sith had control of. Any comments?
     
  2. Mustafar_66

    Mustafar_66 Force Ghost star 6

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    Um, yeah. Of course. That was the whole point. The fact that the Sith are around is why the Force is out of balance. For their to be balance, there can be no Sith.
     
  3. boostincoyote

    boostincoyote Jedi Youngling star 1

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    thats exactly what i think. i dont think that when the prophecy says balance to the force it means equal light and dark i think it just means no darkside. since the jedi say the dark side clouds everything, the darkside is like a disease and has the force out of balance
     
  4. Sn4tcH

    Sn4tcH Jedi Master star 4

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    I think the only way for the force to be balanced was the destruction of a large number of force users. Let's say, Palpatine was killed before ROTS somehow, and Dooku was killed too. No more Sith, and yet there would be thousands and thousands of Jedi using the light side. Sounds unbalanced to me...

    I think it all worked out in the end...
     
  5. Mustafar_66

    Mustafar_66 Force Ghost star 6

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    No, Balance to the Force is the destruction of the Sith once and for all by the Jedi. It's not balance like you get on a set of scales.
     
  6. dL-Fett

    dL-Fett Jedi Youngling

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    i also believe thats bringing balance to the force... but at the begining of ANH theres 2 jedi and 2 sith
     
  7. Short_Round

    Short_Round Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Balance = No Sith

    Per GL

    Done
     
  8. Darth_Roadkill

    Darth_Roadkill Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Short_Round has it right. GL Canon states that Anakin brought balance when he killed Sidious and in effect, killed Vader.

    Think of the balance like this, Darkness is the natural state of the universe, darkness hides in your shadow in direct light, darkness hides beneath your feet, all the dark has to do is wait for the sun to go down, before it can engulf everything.

    However, like a jedi, it only takes 1 small candle, to hold the darkness at bay.

    When people twist the Force to there dark purpose they are tipping the scales towards the darkness.

    Nature finds balance when left alone, this includes the jedi because they listen to the will of the force.

    The Sith make the Force do their bidding instead of listening to it. That is why they tip the scales,
    "The dark side of the force, is a pathway to powers some would call, Unnatural"

    DRK
     
  9. Lixsta

    Lixsta Jedi Youngling star 2

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    Something like my theory. But in my theory the flawed Jedi order had to be destroyed as well as the Sith for the force to be in balance.
     
  10. Darth_Roadkill

    Darth_Roadkill Jedi Youngling star 1

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    I agree the OJO was flawed and would eventually end in ruins if it did not change. I also think that the destruction of the OJO was part of the prophecy that the Jedi did not account for. The NJO ROCKS compared to the OJO. Even if you have alot more New Jedi falling to the dark side, nearly all of them have been brought back to the light....

    Sorry for bringing my EU heracy into the movie forums.
     
  11. Han_the_Man_Solo

    Han_the_Man_Solo Jedi Youngling

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    I think this could be another one of George Lucas' deliberately ambiguous plot strings. All the different interpretations put forward in this thread seem equally plausible.

    I think the wording of the prophecy must have been pitched to allow for Anakim's mixed future i.e. as a good but arrogant Jedi who becomes an evil Sith Lord before eventually redeeming himself just before his death. Any other type of prophecy would not have run true with those whom had seen the OT. I think Anakim's whole life is supposed to bring balance to the force although the scales slide dramatically each way over the course of it. Anakim participates in the destruction of most of the Jedi yet unwittingly sows the seed of its renaissance by fathering Luke and Leia, yet another example of eventual balance via a turbulant route.
     
  12. Darth_Roadkill

    Darth_Roadkill Jedi Youngling star 1

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    I really like you Han the Man, we see I 2 I...

    not in a gay way though...

    drk
     
  13. Darth_Satus

    Darth_Satus Jedi Youngling

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    i heard somewhere that since sith feed off the force and "use" the force to make them stronger and powerful, instead of using it as their ally for defense and knowledge, that was how the force is out of balance.
     
  14. slimybug

    slimybug Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    This thread will be locked in...Honestly, DUH!!! You're just now figuring this out?
     
  15. DarkSider99

    DarkSider99 Jedi Padawan star 4

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    the way i see it is that he did bring balance to the force but not the way the jedi expected. he did kill many jedi but in the end there were 2 sith and 2 jedi(yoda and obiwan). so in a way he did bring balance to the force
     
  16. slimybug

    slimybug Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    DarkSider99, I've heard that many times, and it still eramins the dumbest thing I've ever seen on any forum. The fact is, the "balace to The Force" that the Jedi are talking about is that The Force is out of balance now because of the cloud of the dark sid e the Sith have brought over it. Anakin is prophesized to destroy the Sith and, in the process, as Mace Windu put it in AOTC "bring The Force back into balance."

    Slimy!
     
  17. Darth_Satus

    Darth_Satus Jedi Youngling

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    calm down slimybug dang its just a thread!
     
  18. J_DUBB

    J_DUBB Jedi Youngling

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    I think we are all wrong Luke was the chosen one! he brought it all back! he yelled to his father and kinda manipulated him to pick up SIDs and throw him in that thingy in rotj he brougt the force into balance at least thats wut i think!
     
  19. DarkSider99

    DarkSider99 Jedi Padawan star 4

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    slimybug it was just a theory so just calmdown
     
  20. solo77

    solo77 Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Ok, all thories aside, here are the facts:

    Anakin is the Chosen One.

    Why? He bought balance to the force.

    How? He destoyed the Sith, ie he killed The Emperor in ROTJ.

    GL has explained that 'balance' does NOT mean equal numbers of jedi:sith.

    Balance in fact means NO sith. He explains that the SIth is like a 'cancer' on the force and only once this cancer is removed is the force in balance.

    EOS
     
  21. Darth_Roadkill

    Darth_Roadkill Jedi Youngling star 1

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    well put solo

    DRK
     
  22. LeeKenobi

    LeeKenobi Jedi Knight star 6

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    What if there is no light or dark side?
     
  23. GarthSidious

    GarthSidious Jedi Youngling star 1

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    TRUE: sky_walker1029, you and everyone who agreed with you are correct

    TRUE: anakin is the chosen one

    TRUE: no sith = balance

    FALSE: luke is the chosen one

    FALSE: 2 jedi and 2 sith = balance


    PROOF: http://www.starwars.com/episode-iii/bts/production/f20050518/indexp9.html

    i need not explian myself as i wasted my time doing over and over again because here it is from the man himself
    (look under the quesiont "is this the last theatrical star wars movie?"
     
  24. darth_padme_amidala

    darth_padme_amidala Jedi Youngling

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    here's my thoughts on "balance." in order to get balance both sides of the spectrum must be eliminated, right? So anakin is the chosen one. he brought "balance" to the force. first he destroyed one side, the jedi, then he destroyed the other, the sith. the balance has been brought

    and don't ask me about luke...
    i haven't thought that part out yet
     
  25. greviousrules

    greviousrules Jedi Youngling

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    I think this... In Ep. 1 there were 1000000 some Jedi and 2 sith.
    In Ep.4 there were 2 of each.
     
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