Bane Did Not Originate the Rule of Two - There Was Another

Well, my whole point is just pointing out that Kevin Anderson gets unfairly dumped on.

His reputation is busy enough defending itself from blobstacle races, so it doesn't need to deal with crazy stuff he didn't write that people blame him for anyway.

 

Well Bane of the Sith is a fairly recent story. Maybe KJA Anderson took some of the criticism to heart?

I must also admit that any uber-Sith and uber-Jedi in TOTJ stories can be as much blamed on Veitch as they can on Anderson.

 

How then, if there was only a "Rule of One" was Sith Lord meant to perpetuate a line of succession? Or do you think that they would have researched into Midichlorians, ala Darth Plagueis, and tried to become immortal, therefore no need for an Apprentice?

 

i wonder why bane's sith never considered breeding. i mean they were biding their time, making themselves more powerful why couldnt start a pure and powerful bloodline of force users. one that would rival the chosen ones ability in the force.

 

For the dark side to be strong again it should be contained in one vessel! One Lord!

Bane's quote from JvS. This doesn't mean that, had Githany not piped in with "or two..." Bane would only have had a Rule of One; the second Sith is an apprentice, not a Lord - although Vader is known as a Sith Lord, he's not the Dark Lord, as Sidious is often referred to as. Bane would fairly obviously need an apprentice to become the next Dark Lord, but he only wanted one Master at a time - see how he despised Kaan's brotherhood of self-proclaimed Sith Lords.

Oh, and Rain does indeed become Bane's apprentice; Darth Zannah is mentioned in Abel's Dark Forces article.

 

Darth Bane is the createor of the Rule of Two, many had done it previousley, but he made it a rule, the idea coming from his anger at so many weak lords, initially he thought only of one, but In Jedi VS Sith we see that He speaks of it to GIthany, and she suggests "or two", and he agrees.

 

Though it should be noted that never before Bane had there been only two Sith at a time. His Rule of Two was probably based, at least in part, on the Kun/Qel-Droma and Revan/Malak duos of the past, but let us not forget that those fellows ruled over thousands of lesser Sith of all manners and descriptions, including Lords. Bane was the first to create a Sith Order that could never consist of more than two members. Props where props are due, please .

 

This is very true...in Veitch's original notes (and in a number of interviews he gave), he originally conceived of the "ancient" Sith as being far more teh uber h4r|)c0r3 than what we've seen to a large extent in the film trilogies. Although Qordis's abilities in the story are demonstrably consistent with the other Tales of the Jedi revenants, and even with Palpatine's post-death, pre-Empatojayosian skills as seen during the film era.

Veitch was the one who put gas in the bus and steered it for quite some time before KJA climbed onboard and took over the wheel; Anderson was forced to remain consonant to a large extent with Veitch's conceptions, whether he might've wanted to strike out on his own or not. Still, Kyp's Sun Crusher was a poor-man's Sadow Super-Duper Supernova Gimcrack.

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Although the "Sith Lord/Dark Lord" dichotomy is something that's borne out less by modern-period (prequels-to-the-present) evidence than by the "ancient" Sith Order, whereby we do see one Dark Lord anointed, and one "apprentice" (the Exar/Ulic ceremony in DLotS #6). This definition gets its edges filed off the closer one gets to the movies, with a far more looser application made to the apostates in Bane's order...both are considered "Dark Lords," and "Sith Lords"; but one can be both lord and apprentice, very different from Ulic's order. This may simply be semantical, though, and exactly philosophically identical despite the verbiage.

Stover's ROTS novel does allude to the likelihood of what razzy1319 brings up eventually occurring -- with Dooku's plans to torp the R2R and instate a possible hereditary Sith magocracy. Or a very wide-open one, at any rate. The implications from the text suggest this outcome, if not directly alluding to it; there might almost certainly be Bene Gesserit-like breeding programs instituted so as to expand Dooku's vision of an all-encroaching, all-subsuming, "Bring Me The Children!" Knights of the Sith order.

The canon supports this. There's also what I mentioned on the first page about how this axis of retrohistorical templatism has affected the Order across the last three millennia prior to the movies:

At various times during a relatively recent span of time (from the Great Hyperspace War up through

 

It would have probably been easier to stay alive with the rule of two if your apprentice was your child as they might not kill you in your sleep for sentimental reasons.