Bans and Mods - Smart or Not?

Discussion in 'Communications' started by Grand Admiral Thran, Aug 17, 2003.

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  1. MeBeJedi Jedi Grand Master

    Member Since:
    May 30, 2002
    star 6
    "Yes and a general rule or guideline can be put in that requests users to post with a sense of basic maturity."

    Would "no insults" be a good "general rule", or is that "too grey" for you?

    "I don't need offical agreement. Just because someone doesn't leap to do what you suggest, doesn't mean they don't keep it in the back of their mind when going forward on the new path.

    Instead of going totally this way, you might subconsciously start leaning a bit this way and the path is then (still going that way) but not as far now."


    [face_laugh] I think he has more sense than that. Nice try, though.

    "The path to salvation is a long, difficult, and ardent one, my friend. [wink.gif] If the concerns I raise now only slightly nudge the JC over the span of 5 years from now, wasn't it worth it?"

    Talk about a "grey area". This discussion appears to be over, since nothing of tangible value is being given in response - just wishful thinking along the lines of "things will come my way, just you wait and see". Yeah, it'll be a long wait, all right.

    "If you can't see that, then I suggest you take a politics class at your local college/university to fill up some social science credit. American Politics 110 and Introduction to political science 100 are good places to start. Behavorial science or sociology courses are good too."

    How 'bout you take this argument to a board that caters to such stuff. It doesn't seem to be going anywhere here.

    "Yes, of course, but again, if I advocate change in my government, why can't I advocate change on a simple message board? A doesn't connect to B here."

    Uhm, because you have representatives and pay taxes. These "rights" also exist in the Constitution. Want to tell me where these "rights" are in the TOS? BTW, keep in mind that this is a "free" message board, so no "power of the purse", either. I was under the impression you had taken all those clases you mentioned. ?[face_plain]

    Again, more "pie in the sky" notions of how things should be. You keep talking about the "real world", yet you keep missing the "reality" of what these "simple message boards" are intended for. Interesting, no?

    "We don't require people to be mature or intelligent to post here."

    I'm beginning to see that. [face_laugh]

  2. Syntax Jedi Grand Master

    Member Since:
    Aug 1, 2001
    star 5
    "We don't require people to be mature or intelligent to post here."

    I'm beginning to see that.


    You're just now coming to the realization? ;)
  3. Grand Admiral Thran Jedi Youngling

    Member Since:
    Jul 22, 1999
    star 4
    All right, I'm done debating this. Have your cake, eat it too. I'm done.

    From here on out, if I post, it will be restricted to the starbucks thread in observance and respect for those people there who I've known for a long while and even then, I may not after a while. I guess the toleration bucket is once again full of BS and needs flushing.

    You may cheer and celebrate accordingly.

    Your perception is accurate. I'd say much of what you consider to be mature is significantly different than what the majority of reasonable and intelligent people consider to be mature, based on what I've seen here.

    You needn't veil it, KW. Because I don't agree with you, immediately means my views are invalid. Mmhmm, and someone wonders why I don't or would not attend FF.

    I just simply won't care anymore, go ahead, lock this thread. This discussion is done and has gone far off the original topic of this thread.

    I'd quote a fairly well known line from Half-Baked, in which Scarface tells off the people at his workplace, but somehow, I'd find that it wouldn't be 'touchy-feely enough'. :p


    However, seeing as I'm clearly not fit for this place, since I am such an oddity that I can't possibly fit into the 'mainstream' here. I'll just have to console myself with actually having a relatively normal life and a healthy amount of sun light. ;)

    /obligatory send off 'knock'

    -GAT
  4. MeBeJedi Jedi Grand Master

    Member Since:
    May 30, 2002
    star 6
    "Have your cake, eat it too."

    If you mean have a pleasant posting environment and a set of rules to enforce it, then that's always been the case. :)
  5. Daughter_of_Yubyub Force Ghost

    Member Since:
    Jul 8, 2002
    star 6
    Insults are an important part of life? Bullying makes you stronger? Somehow I doubt that.

    All through elementary and middle school, most of the other girls would make fun of me every day. It affected me, alright. It made me into a person I eventually realized I didn't want to be. It took me a long time and a lot of support from my friends to become a person I was happy with. That's why I don't think we should be allowed to insult people here. I see it as being a very negative thing. Your so called "social regulation" made me depressed and unable to interact normally with other people.

    YubYub and TG- Protecting fangirls from hormonally gifted fanboys since 2002
  6. MeBeJedi Jedi Grand Master

    Member Since:
    May 30, 2002
    star 6
    "Insults are an important part of life? BUllying makes you stronger?"

    Maybe Grand Admiral Thran should have tried using some insults, to see if it would make his argument any stronger. [face_mischief]
  7. Sam_Skywalker Jedi Master

    Member Since:
    Jul 30, 2003
    star 4
    We don't require people to be mature or intelligent to post here.


    whew. good thing, or I wouldn't be allowed in here ;)
  8. Kimball_Kinnison Chosen One

    Member Since:
    Oct 28, 2001
    star 6
    Let me provide a good example of why flaming and insults should not be allowed. This comes from my own experience on this and other message boards.

    I started off in the Lit forum, but slowly transitioned over to the Senate after someone provided me with a link to the Mormonism thread there. Being a Mormon myself, I started answering questions about our beliefs.

    I was quickly struck by the atmosphere that the mods had created in the Senate. Occasionally, some users would come into the thread to post insults or lies about our beliefs. In every case, the mods would act quickly and decisively to stop such behavior. The result is that the Mormonism thread has never been locked and is still active after over a year and a half.

    Contrast that with a religion message board that my mother frequents. There, the mods take a very hands off approach. As long as you don't swear or post porn, you can do what you want. Any attempt to discuss the Church or our beliefs (even when people ask questions) is quickly turned into a "bash fest".

    That environment, where all beliefs and opinions are respected and protected, is the biggest reason that I have remained here on the boards. This is the only message board that I have found so far where a discussion about my religious beliefs has not turned into a big argument. That sort of environment should be protected and encouraged.

    Kimball Kinnison
  9. HawkNC Former RSA: Oceania

    Member Since:
    Oct 23, 2001
    star 6
    You needn't veil it, KW. Because I don't agree with you, immediately means my views are invalid. Mmhmm, and someone wonders why I don't or would not attend FF.


    Hey now, don't get us caught up in this. FF meets have a tendency to completely ignore any rules or policies that they need to follow on the boards. :p
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