"Yes and a general rule or guideline can be put in that requests users to post with a sense of basic maturity." Would "no insults" be a good "general rule", or is that "too grey" for you? "I don't need offical agreement. Just because someone doesn't leap to do what you suggest, doesn't mean they don't keep it in the back of their mind when going forward on the new path. Instead of going totally this way, you might subconsciously start leaning a bit this way and the path is then (still going that way) but not as far now." I think he has more sense than that. Nice try, though. "The path to salvation is a long, difficult, and ardent one, my friend. [wink.gif] If the concerns I raise now only slightly nudge the JC over the span of 5 years from now, wasn't it worth it?" Talk about a "grey area". This discussion appears to be over, since nothing of tangible value is being given in response - just wishful thinking along the lines of "things will come my way, just you wait and see". Yeah, it'll be a long wait, all right. "If you can't see that, then I suggest you take a politics class at your local college/university to fill up some social science credit. American Politics 110 and Introduction to political science 100 are good places to start. Behavorial science or sociology courses are good too." How 'bout you take this argument to a board that caters to such stuff. It doesn't seem to be going anywhere here. "Yes, of course, but again, if I advocate change in my government, why can't I advocate change on a simple message board? A doesn't connect to B here." Uhm, because you have representatives and pay taxes. These "rights" also exist in the Constitution. Want to tell me where these "rights" are in the TOS? BTW, keep in mind that this is a "free" message board, so no "power of the purse", either. I was under the impression you had taken all those clases you mentioned. ? Again, more "pie in the sky" notions of how things should be. You keep talking about the "real world", yet you keep missing the "reality" of what these "simple message boards" are intended for. Interesting, no? "We don't require people to be mature or intelligent to post here." I'm beginning to see that.