PT Battle of Grassy Plains...

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  1. Arawn_Fenn Chosen One

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    What race do the Gungans sound like again?
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  2. KilroyMcFadden Jedi Grand Master

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    Bait much?
  3. Arawn_Fenn Chosen One

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    Ready to answer the question yet?
  4. Iron_lord Chosen One

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    Because it's exactly like the Gungan shield on a bigger scale- it stops bombardment from the outside- but vehicles can move (slowly) through it, maybe?
  5. Placeholder Force Ghost

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    I've always wondered why ground troops can get through a shield, if a tank can get through why not a shell?
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  6. Iron_lord Chosen One

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    It's a Dune-like shield- repels fast-moving objects while admitting ones that move slowly relative to the shield.
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  7. Placeholder Force Ghost

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    So why not drop a bomb from right over the shield. It would not have great velocity
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  8. Iron_lord Chosen One

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    Do the Federation even have bombers at this point? All we see in the movie are starfighters.
  9. Placeholder Force Ghost

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    I don't know, it's more of a hypothetical question to the nature and usefulness of these shields.
  10. Slicer87 Jedi Master

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    It seems like walking machines, that are gounded, seem to pass though shields okay(ie battle droids and walkers). Also the Hoth shield may be just a partial ceiling, too low for highspeed spacecraft, but enough clearence for ground craft and low speed, low attitude aircraft. Not a dome like like the Gungan shields?
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  11. Slicer87 Jedi Master

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    Those Vulture Droids blasters are much weaker than a AAT cannon, if a AAT can't punch though somethings, a Vulture Droid sure won't.
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  12. Placeholder Force Ghost

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    He was responding to my point about just dropping a bomb from right over the shield. Like, a slow physical bomb that was just released should make it through, right?
  13. Saintheart Chosen One

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    Always it's the slow blade that penetrates the shield.

    [IMG]
  14. The Supreme Chancellor Jedi Grand Master

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    The TF is arrogant and wanted to show the might of their army in the ability to destroy the Gungans.
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  15. Saintheart Chosen One

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    I forgot to actually respond ... one problem is that if it's a Dune-like shield, then a physical bomb dropped from a fighter isn't "slow". At the moment of release it still has the velocity of the parent fighter, relative to the shield. And discounting friction from the air, a freefalling bomb will get even faster -- accelerating at a constant 9.8 metres per second, per second assuming Earth-strength gravity. Galileo, can you dig it. :D
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  16. Placeholder Force Ghost

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    I was thinking more like a craft hovering over the position, something that can loiter right above the shield. We know that speeders can hover, so the technology is readily prevalent in the Star Wars universe.

    Think of a person releasing something from a helicopter, that's the kind of thing I'm thinking of, from right over the shield it wouldn't be traveling fast as it passed through
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  17. Saintheart Chosen One

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    Well, sure. On the other hand, strange as it is, we don't see any TF fighters hovering, so maybe they weren't built for that? Neimoidians are basically an analogue for "build it cheap, build it crap, make money from it," so perhaps they didn't bother to include that feature except on the deluxe version? :D
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  18. Placeholder Force Ghost

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    That is true, it's like a Wal Mart army
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  19. Prodigy_Knight Jedi Master

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    I do so love Wookiepedia:

    List of all the battles in the invasion of Naboo.

    The space battle, where the TF's fleet is detailed, you'll notice the only ship capable of bombarding anything is the lone Lucerhulk class droid control ship.

    So yeah the one ship which could have done something was the one having to deal with attacks from the heroes, and to be honest it has only 42 quad turbolaser cannons, which don't have any concrete statistics, the gungans shield might even withstand them.

    Why didn't the TF bring more powerful ships ?

    On the one side this is during the Republic, Naboo wasn't some military power on the other side the TF themselves are merchants not warriors.
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  20. SithStarSlayer Manager Emeritus

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    Why didn't the TF bring more powerful ships ?

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    Because they were sent to occupy the planet and expected little, to no-resistance.
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  21. MRCynical Jedi Grand Master

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    I'd always assumed that the droid army had prevented people from accessing their food stores, rather than the blockade itself causing a food shortage so quickly.
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  22. TheMadHatter Jedi Grand Master

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    I doubt the trade federation was that big enough,

    we're talking about an entire planet, not an occupied country

    unless "your people are starving" meant only people of Theed, in that case the other inhabitants of Naboo can go and rot eh?
  23. janstett Force Ghost

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    The Nemoidians controlled the city, a fortified position. It made no sense for them to leave this position to fight in an open field in the first place. You could argue they were just spoiling for a fight but it's more that they're just plain idiots.

    Yes, it doesn't make sense that they left behind only one blockade ship. Did they think the war was over? It also makes no sense that they would land their fleet on the complete opposite side of the planet in the first place, instead of landing just outside the city.
  24. janstett Force Ghost

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    Or why when the Royal ship breaks the blockade at Naboo the shield generator is hit, taking the shields down, and if they don't get it back up they're dead. Wait, what good is the shield generator if the shields are ineffective in the first place?
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  25. Alexrd Force Ghost

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    Which war? They invaded the planet, and indeed they thought the invasion was over (they had the planet under their control). Thus they only need the control ship to mantain their armies active and functional.
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