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Discussion in 'Literature' started by Taalcon, Apr 12, 2017.

  1. SpecForce Trooper

    SpecForce Trooper Jedi Master star 4

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    Essentially Operation Shadow Hand- just sooner. Entire fleets suddenly disappearing.
     
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  2. LelalMekha

    LelalMekha Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    You guys, I' ve got this theory:
    what if the members of Inferno Squad weren't part of the First Order? What if they did, in fact, join the New Republic?
     
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  3. Sinrebirth

    Sinrebirth Mod-Emperor of the EUC, Lit, RPF and SWC star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    And then
    secede with the Centrists?

    As we see the protag on Starkiller base giving speeches about how she's waited thirty years for this.


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  4. LelalMekha

    LelalMekha Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Well, trailers are deceptive, so...
     
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  5. Cracian_Thumper

    Cracian_Thumper Jedi Master star 2

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    I'm not sure if this is quite the right thread for this, but the guys over at Tested made an Inferno Squad helmet for Janina Gavankar.

    They give it to her at about 13 minutes in, and her reaction is adorable.
     
  6. Contessa

    Contessa Jedi Master star 3

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    Cutest! <3
     
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  7. SpecForce Trooper

    SpecForce Trooper Jedi Master star 4

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    So is Inferno going to be a part of the ISB? This would be the first SpecForce unit belonging to ISB that I've seen. I always thought Imperial Special Forces was only in the Military.
     
  8. Barriss_Coffee

    Barriss_Coffee Chosen One star 6

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    Hmmmm so we're starting to see a lot of Fondor again. I guess I have a one-track mind, but I wonder if we'll ever see our favorite Fondorian warlord again? Even like, a Corran-in-Jedi-Academy mention?
     
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  9. vncredleader

    vncredleader Force Ghost star 5

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    I want them to bring him back with a comic, The Zsinj Warlord Returns. The cover could be him doing the DKR pose
     
  10. JediBatman

    JediBatman Jedi Master star 4

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    The new Canon has mentioned Imperial infighting and warlords, but hasn't really shown them yet. When they do, if would be the perfect opportunity to bring back Zsinj. I don't care if it's just an Easter Egg, something like "Senator Mothma, we're sending forces against warlords Blah, Blah, and Zisnj", it would still be awesome!
     
  11. godisawesome

    godisawesome Skywalker Saga Undersheriff star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    I tend to think that Zsinj's traits are flexible enough you could even make him a post-Empire nuisance. Just make him former regime personnel who ostensibly laid down his arms after the accords, and then have him become the military leader of the Confederation of Corporate Systems, and replace all his Stormtroopers with those cool, underutilized Raptors, and have him be more of a quiet, soft-power threat with some variation of the Iron Fist waiting in the wings if he can form a large enough Anti-Republic power bloc out of the other governments.
     
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  12. Charlemagne19

    Charlemagne19 Chosen One star 8

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    Eh, that removes all Confederacy elements.
     
  13. godisawesome

    godisawesome Skywalker Saga Undersheriff star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    That's why I chose the "Corporate" Systems successor state. I figure you make CCS the cynical opportunist political bloc that wants a total deregulation on any businesses or trade agreements, and maybe have some of the Imperial-friendly businesses join them, like the Mining Guild. Pretty much a cutthroat objectivist state where someone who uses business and military power side-by-side like Zsinj would thrive.

    Then you put all the idealists who had valid complaints in the Other CIS successor state, with the only unifying thing between the two different groups is that they dislike centralized power from the Core, thus making Mothma's roving capital a major political boon.
     
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  14. Charlemagne19

    Charlemagne19 Chosen One star 8

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    Oh yes, the "Confederates" who claim it was all about democracy. Silly idealists. I believe in the TRUE Confederacy of Independent Systems where the masses exist to serve the almighty credit and not the reverse!

    RISE, RISE TRADE FEDERATION EMPLOYEES!

    GIVE UP YOUR FREEDOM!

    YOU EXIST TO SERVE THE BOTTOM LINE!
     
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  15. godisawesome

    godisawesome Skywalker Saga Undersheriff star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    As ridiculous as that concept may seem, yeah. Although...

    ...If you tried to apply any kind of faux-logic to what an obsessed-with-profit-at-all-costs nation state in the GFFA would look like, it would be a *very* different animal from the usual Star Wars bad guys. They'd be a slim coalition of only a few planets, probably defined politically by being a truly decentralized confederacy, and be far more about economic and occasionally political hegemony; actually conquering territory and holding it would be a drain on resources if your main goal was just to maximize profit, so your military and security forces would almost always have to have some person on the target planet agreeing to act as the supposed authority for it. *If* the CCS were to be made into an antagonist, it would have to field an armed force more like a scalpel than a hammer.
     
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  16. SpecForce Trooper

    SpecForce Trooper Jedi Master star 4

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    I think Inferno will be ISB for two reasons:
    1) They seem to be taking orders from Admiral Versio, an ISB officer.
    2) The members are referred to as 'Agents', a strictly Intelligence-based term.
    I haven't read the novel yet, so this may be redundant.
     
  17. Chris0013

    Chris0013 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Does ISB get to pull from the military...and therefore military rank is used simply as an honorific?? In Marvel Nick Fury was a colonel...but director of SHIELD. He was still called 'Colonel'.
     
  18. SpecForce Trooper

    SpecForce Trooper Jedi Master star 4

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    Hm... The ISB contains a branch called 'Enforcement'. It's a paramilitary force, explicitly containing Special Forces. [face_thinking]
     
  19. GrandAdmiralJello

    GrandAdmiralJello Comms Admin ❉ Moderator Communitatis Litterarumque star 10 Staff Member Administrator

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    I've long suspected that the ISB's use of military ranks are for equivalency purposes, but we see ostensibly lower-ranked ISB people (like Kallus) pushing around admirals. There might be a political dimension to that, though.


    Missa ab iPhona mea est.
     
  20. Sinrebirth

    Sinrebirth Mod-Emperor of the EUC, Lit, RPF and SWC star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    I was about to say.

    ISB includes the individuals who can send even admirals to prison at the end of the day, if they accuse you of sedition.


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  21. godisawesome

    godisawesome Skywalker Saga Undersheriff star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    The sheer size of the Empire's armed forces and bureacracy was apparently big enough for the ISB to surprise everyone with a military force capable of holding Coruscant hostage, so it's possible that ISB's already insane ranking system (since Garrick Versio was apparently Inspector General, then admiral) includes some ranks that are really more about ISB resources; Agent Kallus doesn't command that many other ISB officers and agents, while Garrick may very well head an ISB fleet.
     
  22. SilentGuy66

    SilentGuy66 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Is it just me or does the new canon have a thing for making all "super evil" imperials ISB?

    It's like:
    -How evil am I? I'm admiral of the 63rd navy fleet
    -So?
    -Of the ISB
    (Gasps)
     
  23. AdmiralNick22

    AdmiralNick22 Retired Fleet Admiral star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    It makes the ISB's nominal control of Coruscant post-Endor very interesting, ditto their own ISB fleet of warships. Apparently no Star Destroyers among this fleet, but that doesn't stop them from fielding any other familiar designs.

    Palpatine didn't trust anyone, hence his choice to make his own officers and administrators always feel on edge and in competition.

    --Adm. Nick
     
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  24. GrandAdmiralJello

    GrandAdmiralJello Comms Admin ❉ Moderator Communitatis Litterarumque star 10 Staff Member Administrator

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    I didn't get the impression the ISB had taken control, but rather, their picket ships were all that was left bc the military was under orders (from Rax) not to defend Coruscant.


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  25. AdmiralNick22

    AdmiralNick22 Retired Fleet Admiral star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Possession is nine tenths of the law. :p

    --Adm. Nick
     
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