Phx Before you ask about the colour change...

Discussion in 'SouthWest Region Discussion' started by sideshow212, Feb 26, 2004.

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  1. sideshow212 Former RSA

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    Feb 3, 2002
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    there is a policy debate currently being discussed in the modsquad board. the mods who have black colours are protesting. i am not allowed to elaborate further. it will be over in 48 hours, one way or the other.

    the comms thread here is all i can point you to.
  2. PtrsonsZOO Force Ghost

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    Jul 30, 2001
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    Are you standing up for something or against it? I just want to know what side to be on [face_mischief] ;)
  3. sideshow212 Former RSA

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    Feb 3, 2002
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    we are against the issue at hand...
  4. PtrsonsZOO Force Ghost

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    Well, then in that case... "Damn the man! Save the Empire!"





    EDIT: Had to fix my quote [face_blush]
  5. jada_marnew Jedi Grand Master

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    Feb 22, 2003
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    Stand strong, sideshow and Void! ;)
  6. sideshow212 Former RSA

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    Feb 3, 2002
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    oh well, the cats out of the bag now...

    from raven's post...

    An element of site ownership has told the entire Mod Squad that we must provide him with our real names and addresses and such by registering at another message board and then passing on our user names there to him through G-S. If we do not, we get demoted. All future moderators will have to provide this information. This may be expanded to cover City Representatives as well.

    The Mod Squad and Old Folks Home have two major issues.
    1) The security of the information and the purpose behind the information gathering. As everyone is probably well aware, the Mod Squad is about as leaky as the Titanic. This has fostered worries about how secure this information would be, even though it?s being stored elsewhere. No system is perfect, and there is the worry that that information might come out and what might be done with that information. And we?ve yet to be told why we need to give it (though the guess that it is something along the lines of ?if LFL sues, it?s on the shoulders of the moderators?).
    2) The way that this has been handled by site ownership. More than anything else, I think that?s what?s at the heart of this. The feeling in the Mod Squad and Old Folks Home is that an element of the site ownership does not care about the message boards and the users and moderators here in any way at all. We as a group have not been provided with reasons why the information is needed; we feel that we?ve been threatened; we feel that we?ve been insulted; and finally we feel that we?ve been ignored.


    well, there you have it. the mods who wear black (and some who don't) are against this policy. so come saturday morning, void and i will most likely no longer be RSA's...
  7. PtrsonsZOO Force Ghost

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    Jul 30, 2001
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    Well, sounds like some is trying to play CYA at the expense of others :mad: That makes me very angry :mad:


    Hmmmmm... Sounds like I may be taking my conversations elsewhere, very soon.... Let's see them try to sell advertising to the RNC and the Car Companies when there is no one here to see them :mad: And hey, isn't there something about making money off of someone else's intellectual property being against the law? :mad:
  8. EmprsHandMick Jedi Master

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    Dec 7, 2001
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    I'd suggest that any conversations about how we intend to react to this should the demotions take place be taken to avenues off the boards. Just an FYI since Im sure the conversations are going to start soon
  9. JediDragon Jedi Grand Master

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    Mar 11, 2002
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    *shrug*

    if activity here decreases, we will find another forum...starwars.com maybe? I know a lot of people over there have a deep hatred for TFN, lol.
  10. Jedi_Knight_Birr Retired RSA

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    Jun 27, 2002
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    so come saturday morning, void and i will most likely no longer be RSA's...

    who could they find to replace you guys.

    I hope you stay RSAs.
  11. VoidDancer Jedi Grand Master

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    Feb 13, 2002
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    Well I'd suggest you email your CR with your email addresses so we can keep in contact if the worst should happen...say somebody decides to put down the uprising by orbital bombardment (ie boards get deleted if somebody doesn't want to mess with 90% of the mods refusing to cooperate). I'll be emailing the CR's with my info so we can get a replacement apparatus in place if needed.

    Ideally we'd like this to blow over. If it doesn't, we'd like to keep in contact with all our friends here. If that's not possible, we will find a way. My email is in my profile, have at it.
  12. Jedi_Knight_Birr Retired RSA

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    would they do that? wipe the boards out?
  13. VoidDancer Jedi Grand Master

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    It's just an example. They can do nothing to nuke the boards. Some of us feel some people are being so unreasonable that anything goes and out attitude about it is bleeding through.
  14. jada_marnew Jedi Grand Master

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    so come saturday morning, void and i will most likely no longer be RSA's...

    :(
  15. JediDragon Jedi Grand Master

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    Mar 11, 2002
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    i have josh on messenger & our cr's phone numbers, so no problems for me there. Also you are all welcome to post on the RMFF site's message boards.
  16. VoidDancer Jedi Grand Master

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    It could be worse (for me at least) I'll probably take out my frustration on the group that's coming over saturday for an all weekend D&D session. At least Sideshow won't have us gaming in his group till a week from sunday :D
  17. jada_marnew Jedi Grand Master

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    //rethinks weekend plans!// [face_shocked]
  18. JaiSin_Tam Jedi Knight

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    Hmmm,

    ... Gold-23 Standing by.
    ... S-foils locked in attack position.
    ... Weapons live and ready.
    ... Stay in formation.

    I've always wanted to be a pirate! ;-)

    Stand tall and firm.
    There are always new options and new frontiers.
  19. Commander_Choad Jedi Master

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    Sep 11, 2002
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    I just had to... I couldn't help it...

    To Void, KW and Sideshow... Stand tall, stand firm... We got your back.

    whut I posted...

    <stirs the pot>

    It's been my great privilege and pleasure to know Knightwriter, Voiddancer and Sideshow212 on both a personal basis as my friends, and a professional one as well. In the time that I have known them, we have all laughed and cried together and I have come to hold them in the highest respect, again, both personally and professionally.

    As far as I'm concerned, there is no reason to ask for personal contact information, as should a legal matter arise, and since IP's are tracked, they can dredge this information up by going to the ISP with a court order for the information.

    Stick the request in your Personal Sarlaac Pit...

    My $.02 on this, and if you feel you need to ban my happy self, go right ahead... Because when you start attempting to micro-manage people, it all goes to H-E-double hockey sticks...
  20. Jedi_PrincessAZ Jedi Master

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    Oct 20, 2003
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    This is such a sad situation!!! :( :_| :_|

    I won't clog up this thread by getting on my soap box...my thoughts are posted here:

    Why are the mods black with a line through?

    Terrie

    EDIT (X2): Cuz I'm still getting used to these dang markup codes!!! :)
  21. Obey Wann Former RMFF CR & SW Region RSA

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  22. Jedi_Satimber Jedi Grand Master

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    if activity here decreases, we will find another forum...starwars.com maybe?

    Hell no...do not go there...you will only fall into the trap of the owners...that is where they want you to go.


    There are other sites out there...


    And I know of some...even ones that will be associated with FF-type things...
  23. Idiots Array Jedi Grand Master

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    Jan 3, 2000
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    Guys, I just wanted to thank all of you who have given your support. As you can see I've changed my colors as well to let everyone know where I stand with this issue and also to try to get things moving at the CR level since it looks like this will affect us next. Hopefully you'll start to see more Chapter Reps adopting the blue and black.

    To reiterate what Void said: the PFF is going nowhere, no matter what happens. Void, sideshow, and myself have discussed several options for our online meeting place, including establishing our own set of message boards, however at this point those plans are just that: plans, contingencies. We're still waiting to see how this will play out and I must say I, for one, am cautiously optimistic. We've got a lot of support not only from the Moderators, Administrators and RSAs but from users across the JC and FanForce. Ignoring popular support carries a heavy cost and if there's one thing geeks excell at it's giving hell. ;)
  24. VoidDancer Jedi Grand Master

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    Feb 13, 2002
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    I do think I need to reiterate something. Unless something permanent happens to the boards themselves, for the forseeable future we will NOT be abandoning these boards. Even if the Mods who don't submit get demoted, abandoning a well known meeting place would just be imprudent, as well as a little childish on the mods' parts. I'm only childish when it comes to GMing.
  25. PtrsonsZOO Force Ghost

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    See my new sigline for my stand on the issue [face_plain]
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