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ST Benicio del Toro (DJ) in TLJ

Discussion in 'Sequel Trilogy' started by Leoluca Randisi, Jul 20, 2015.

  1. Gigoran Monk

    Gigoran Monk Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    But if the "similarity" is a very thin, vague one based primarily (or solely) on their shared skin color, it borders on the ridiculous. Their characters are absolutely nothing alike. Not least as DJ is very likely to not be a force user. I mean, is it really plausible to believe that Ezra, a powerful force user, simply disappeared and became a petty criminal for all the years of the Galactic Civil War, and the 30 years afterwards up until he's discovered in TLJ? And that Rian Johnsin will want to explain that in his movie? He's got way better things to do than polish that kind of turd.
     
  2. 11-4D

    11-4D Force Ghost star 5

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    Even if he is Ezra, it wouldn't be something that Rian would bother to explain. It would be irrelevant to the plot most likely.

    And most of the Ezra theories come from the fact that they both have more or less identical scars on their faces... Which is either a coincidence (unlikely) or a deliberate thing thrown in there to mess with fans. I think it's too close to be a coincidence.

    I haven't seen anyone mentioned the skin color either. I thought Ezra was supposed to be middle eastern and BTD looks pretty darn white to me.
     
  3. Gigoran Monk

    Gigoran Monk Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    DJ having a scar is very recent. The DJ = Ezra theories have been a thing in fandom ever since BDT was chosen for the role, long before we knew who he was and what he would look like. And that was based entirely/ exclusively upon them both not being white.
     
  4. 11-4D

    11-4D Force Ghost star 5

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    Even so... not racist. Just looking for similarities to base their theory on.
     
  5. Gigoran Monk

    Gigoran Monk Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Fair enough. But where have all the Holdo = Sabine theories been hiding?
     
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  6. Darth Imbecillis

    Darth Imbecillis Jedi Master star 4

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    Well, one might also imagine that people watch and like Rebels and are hoping it to connect to the ST in some major way, so that the new canon would really feel like an interconnected universe. But I suppose that would require giving people the benefit of the doubt.

    Saying this as someone who has never thought BDT's character would be Ezra.
     
  7. ZY-Fighter

    ZY-Fighter Jedi Knight star 1

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    ? Isn't Sabine Mandalorian, ie of a skin colour that's not Laura-Dern-white? Admittedly, as I said before, I've only seen up to Series 2.
     
  8. Gigoran Monk

    Gigoran Monk Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    I think that’s fair, and certainly understand that the theory can be born out of positive feelings for Rebels (and Ezra). Though it’s also fair to label the theory seriously far-fetched. :)
     
  9. Darth_Voider

    Darth_Voider Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Sabine is supposed to be Asian (yes, yes, I know, Asia does not exist in the GFFA, but you know what I mean).
     
  10. miasma

    miasma Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Considering how many years later TLJ takes place, and how simplistic Ezra was drawn, I think there is enough wiggle-room to say BDT could be a much older version of Ezra (heck, I personally don't think Mark Hamill looks much like Luke, yet he is. Years change people.) Having said that, I doubt BDT is playing Ezra, I just don't think it's unreasonable or racist to think he is.
     
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  11. Gigoran Monk

    Gigoran Monk Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    It's definitely unreasonable. Namely as Ezra is a major force user in Rebels. His disappearance for 40 years, only to resurface as a hacker with no force powers, doesn't strike me as particularly plausible.
     
  12. oncafar

    oncafar Force Ghost star 6

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    i had earlier before i discovered cardinal suggested DJ could be a force-sensitive hacker because i was trying to figure out why he is more useful than a droid. even in sw rebels it seemed the best human hacker types had those cybernetic thingies attached to their brains (like lando's buddy lobot or whatever his name was). i was questioning the value of a human hacker at all when i'm sure a droid can beat one any day. then i thought that maybe a force sensitive human hacker was the answer to this problem. with the force you might be even better than some droids at it.

    of course i suppose there is a problem with seeing DJ and cardinal as the same because he was busy training child soldiers not a computer specialist. but i think he did work with programing simulations, so there's a bit of experience there. he also might have a unique familiarity with FO systems in particular. and he's had some time to find himself a skill set. i can see it as a stretch. and maybe the weakest point for cardinal = DJ. but i'm just still rolling with it.

    my problem is imaging ezra's personality transforming into how i imagine DJ's personality... i don't know. if PH said ezra =/= DJ though that makes this really easy.
     
  13. darth_mccartney

    darth_mccartney Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    DJ looks like a cool kinda guy. Fact.
     
  14. Darth_Accipiter

    Darth_Accipiter Force Ghost star 5

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    my bet is on DJ being a Han Solo in ANH type character, maybe more skilled, but not the type to come back in the end like Han did. Han chose a side. DJ won't.
     
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  15. Luke'sSeveredHand

    Luke'sSeveredHand Jedi Master star 4

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    More glaringly obvious to me and this may have been touched on as well, but isn't Ezra the same age as Luke? DJ looks about oh, 16 years younger.
     
  16. Pro Scoundrel

    Pro Scoundrel New Films Expert At Modding Casual star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    Wrong fandom, dude. Logic is a Star Trek thing.
     
  17. The Regular Mustache

    The Regular Mustache Force Ghost star 6

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    DJ, will he or won't he die in TLJ?
     
  18. ZY-Fighter

    ZY-Fighter Jedi Knight star 1

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    Ah, right! I didn't realise. I thought Mandalorian = Maori now after Tem Morrison.
     
  19. Darth Chiznuk

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    I believe there's still a question of whether or not Jango Fett was an actual Mandalorian or just stole the armor. Even still Mandalore is an entire system of planets so it makes sense a lot of different ethnicities make up their ranks.
     
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  20. ZY-Fighter

    ZY-Fighter Jedi Knight star 1

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    That possibility (not Mando) crossed my mind while I was typing, too. I'm sure we'll find out one day. Maybe in "Older Fett: A Star Wars Story"?
     
  21. Mungo Baobab

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  22. Gigoran Monk

    Gigoran Monk Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    I think that’s the very first we’ve heard from DJ, yes?
     
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  23. Mungo Baobab

    Mungo Baobab Manager Emeritus star 4 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Yeah, I think so.
     
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  24. cerealbox

    cerealbox Force Ghost star 6

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    Lol at people still thinking he's Ezra.
     
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  25. Hopeless

    Hopeless Jedi Master star 4

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    It would be nice, but unless they've adopted JJ's habit of outright lying about ST Into Darkness it's very unlikely.
    It would also spoil end of season 4 if he's revealed as Ezra so given how they've refused to reveal who Rey or even Finn's parentage it just depends how important that mystery is to the plot?
    So very unlikely!