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Lit Beyond the big two: lesser Force traditions in the GFFA

Discussion in 'Literature' started by Gamiel, Dec 12, 2013.

  1. Gamiel

    Gamiel Chosen One star 9

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    The Zeison Sha force tradition first appeared in Star Wars RPG: Hero’s Guide from Wizards of the Coast as a new force using class/group for the players and GM to use. In the Hero’s Guide it was stated that the Zeison Sha force tradition begun "Nearly two millennia before the rise of the Empire[...]" but in the Knights of the Old Republic II, that takes place nearly four millennia before the rise of the Empire, we can get our hands on something called Zeison Sha armour (that looks like Zam Wessel's armour) and we are informed that
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    Do we have anything that graft those two statements together?




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  2. _Catherine_

    _Catherine_ Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    KOTOR II wasn't very careful with its chronology.
     
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  3. DigitalMessiah

    DigitalMessiah Chosen One star 6

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  4. Gorefiend

    Gorefiend Chosen One star 5

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    Dawn of the Jedi ;)
     
  5. Gamiel

    Gamiel Chosen One star 9

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    Do we know what abilities/techniques the Wardens of the Sky's have? How are they organized? Also am I alone to want to see them covered in the SW equivalence of old school seaman tattoos, yarr

    Really?
     
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  6. darklordoftech

    darklordoftech Force Ghost star 6

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    Legions of Lettow. Why didn't they become "an idea" like the Sith? What were their ideas?
     
  7. Ghost

    Ghost Chosen One star 8

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    Legions of Lettow died. The Dark Jedi were exiled, and became rulers of the Sith Empire. That's why.
     
  8. darklordoftech

    darklordoftech Force Ghost star 6

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    In that case the Sith were a lineage, not an "idea".
     
  9. Ghost

    Ghost Chosen One star 8

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    The idea was just given a name, and made serious dark-siders synonymous with Sith.
     
  10. DigitalMessiah

    DigitalMessiah Chosen One star 6

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    The Legions of Lettow were probably less hardcore than what became synonymous with the Sith.
     
  11. Gamiel

    Gamiel Chosen One star 9

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    What kind of stories could we see the Legions of Lettow in?
     
  12. DigitalMessiah

    DigitalMessiah Chosen One star 6

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    A Dawn of the Jedi follow-up that jumps about a thousand years into the future.
     
  13. Gamiel

    Gamiel Chosen One star 9

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    Morning of the Jedi?
     
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  14. darklordoftech

    darklordoftech Force Ghost star 6

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    I'd love to read Morning of the Jedi. The First Great Schism needs elaboration.
     
  15. vong333

    vong333 Force Ghost star 5

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    As we move forward, we are going to start to see and read different things with the force and force groups. The Clone Wars series already introduced Mortis, the Dathomir Witches in a new light, plus other tid bits here and there. I can expect this to be an on-going thing as we move forward into the future. To just say that what came before is going to remain, is unrealistic.
     
  16. DarthJenari

    DarthJenari Jedi Master star 4

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    Hopefully what we get in the future is better than Mortis. If that's what's going to be added, i'd prefer they just stick to what the movies gave us.
     
  17. DigitalMessiah

    DigitalMessiah Chosen One star 6

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    I don't really get the Mortis hate. I can understand disliking what Denning did with it, but in the confines of the show it was the best work done in TCW, and the best work done with the Force since the NJO.
     
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  18. Zeta1127

    Zeta1127 Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    I just can't take anything TCW did seriously, and I have no interest in a personification of the balance of the Force or whatever Mortis was supposed to be. I never even bothered to watch TCW, because the premise of Anakin being knighted almost immediately after Geonosis and having a Padawan is completely meaningless to me.
     
  19. DigitalMessiah

    DigitalMessiah Chosen One star 6

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    So you've never seen it and don't know what it is but you don't like it. Plus completely unrelated reasons. Gotcha.
     
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  20. Zeta1127

    Zeta1127 Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    How about this, I utterly despise the concept of an extremely powerful family of Force users that are so powerful they muddy everything, and see no difference between the Ones and Abeloth.
     
  21. DigitalMessiah

    DigitalMessiah Chosen One star 6

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    I dislike the idea of Luke fighting Vader on Dagobah.
     
  22. DarthJenari

    DarthJenari Jedi Master star 4

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    I don't really think that's saying much, as the show itself was fairly terrible, and most stuff Post-NJO also isn't anything to write home about. That being said, I think the best work done with it was the presentation of Anakin Skywalker's character as a whole. Mortis however was just a terrible, terrible idea.
     
  23. DigitalMessiah

    DigitalMessiah Chosen One star 6

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    Well, put it this way: it's the best work done with the Force apart from the NJO.

    I suspect if it was in a comic or novel people would love it. Unless it was written by Denning.
     
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  24. Gamiel

    Gamiel Chosen One star 9

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    So any one of the lesser Force traditions that we know about that people would like to see more from? And in what way?
     
  25. darklordoftech

    darklordoftech Force Ghost star 6

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    I want to see more from the Legions of Lettow and the Principles of Rajivari. I'm curious about their ideology.