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ST Birth. Movies. Death: 94% of RT voters signed up in Dec. A 3rd quit after review.

Discussion in 'Sequel Trilogy' started by Ender_and_Bean, Dec 21, 2017.

  1. Ender_and_Bean

    Ender_and_Bean Chosen One star 6

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  2. Count Zero

    Count Zero Jedi Master star 4

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    I read it. This happens in Video Gaming reviews a LOT.
     
  3. Ender_and_Bean

    Ender_and_Bean Chosen One star 6

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    It’s probably the best article I’ve seen on it. Lots of info. Made sense after seeing it. I hadn’t considered the demo difference either.

    Recommend the Read and some of the links and examples show.
     
  4. Cantina Bassist

    Cantina Bassist Jedi Knight star 2

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  5. Bacbacca

    Bacbacca Jedi Master star 3

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    Now explain all the YT videos....
     
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  6. Count Zero

    Count Zero Jedi Master star 4

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    That's pretty easy. Those guys latch onto anything for hits. It's the moving version of "why they don't cast [insert literally anyone here] anymore."
     
  7. Luke02

    Luke02 Chosen One star 6

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    How many threads do we need on this?
     
  8. soul8luos

    soul8luos Jedi Master star 4

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    Yet TFA and Rogue One were not targeted by review bombing. TLJ is just **** to some fans.
     
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  9. Defiance

    Defiance Jedi Grand Master star 3

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    Whelp, I guess the fact that TLJ is the first movie I disliked enough to want to leave a negative review on RT means that my review is fake.
     
  10. Cantina Bassist

    Cantina Bassist Jedi Knight star 2

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    Hes right, its very easy to explain: the film is bad
     
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  11. Count Zero

    Count Zero Jedi Master star 4

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    I liked it and had better things to do with my time than rush to RT to give it stars. Your move.
     
  12. Defiance

    Defiance Jedi Grand Master star 3

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    Your point? I even logged into a TFN account I haven't used in years to give my opinion. So?
     
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  13. Count Zero

    Count Zero Jedi Master star 4

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    Point is that the RT audience score is about worthless. Its about as trustworthy as the reviews on steam.
     
  14. Ender_and_Bean

    Ender_and_Bean Chosen One star 6

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    This article isn’t implying anything about people not being real. It’s getting into review bombing culture and the kinds of people alongside those of you who left your 0.5 star reviews but who did so for reasons more related to politics. Some of which may not have even seen the movie. So, there’s weighting and skewing considerations.

    The article shares some info he pulled and also highlighted how the sites don’t seem to have the same demographic breakdown as far as male and female as people who are actually going to the movie. It also gets into negative self-selecting and now angry people are more likely to vent than happy people will go out of their way to praise or defend. Just a good piece with good examples for others movies and games to highlight that this does happen.
     
  15. AhsokaSolo

    AhsokaSolo Force Ghost star 7

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    If 94% of RT reviewers signing up in December is a sign of alt-righters review bombing TLJ even though they didn’t TFA and TLJ has a comperavle number of reviews to TFA, why isn’t TLJ’s score 6%?
     
  16. Defiance

    Defiance Jedi Grand Master star 3

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    Then you could have saved time by stating this in the first place. Effective communication. Try it sometime.
     
  17. chris hayes

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  18. Count Zero

    Count Zero Jedi Master star 4

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    Unless you think that the 116,351 people who reviewed last year's Ghostbusters actually saw the movie...
     
  19. prlrocks

    prlrocks Jedi Master star 2

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    I didn't like it, thought about leaving a negative review (3 stars really, given I did love some stuff), but haven't. I do believe there are a lot of unhappy people posting reviews because I'm seeing a large amount of the unhappy people on every social media platform (happy ones too). Also those reviews tend to be really long and detailed. That said, I'm sure there are also some less then honest behavior going on as well. People take things way too far.
     
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  20. Cantina Bassist

    Cantina Bassist Jedi Knight star 2

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    This is sheer delusion. Just accept some people dont like the movie. Jeez Louise

    Heres a neat fact: I saw it with a 9 person crew. 4 of us liked it, 5 of us hated it. Microcosm?
     
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  21. Strongbow

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    How do explain the other disparities mentioned in the article?
     
  22. Gen Rendar

    Gen Rendar Jedi Knight star 1

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    Maybe some people just did not like the movie and wanted to voice their opinion? Maybe they are just regular people and did not know how else to make their voice and opinion heard? And then because it's the internet of course you will have some people just join in because they like to troll.

    From the different audience reviews I saw on RT, most people that rated it poorly wrote fairly detailed reasons why (mostly about the direction of the story). There are of course troll comments on the negative side, but there are also people rating it very highly and leaving comments like "Fanboys are just upset about their headcannon." A comment like that is also pretty much a troll as well. Then you have people that generally really did like the movie and go into detail about how they really liked the surprises and direction.

    We keep seeing articles like this one try to downplay the value of the people who dislike it, instead of focusing on why they disliked it. Maybe they dislike it for the wrong reasons and we should talk about that instead of trying to make it seem like they aren't real people. I don't know much about how someone uses bots to effect the reviews, but if it's possible to use a bot to rate it negatively, isn't it also possible for someone to use them to rate it positively to try and keep the score up for their own reasons (I am not saying this is what is happening, I am just pointing out it can go both ways).

    Everyone is allowed to like or dislike the movie, and I think it is logical to assume that if you did not like the movie, you would be more likely to let people know about it. Just look at the prequels.
     
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  23. Strongbow

    Strongbow Force Ghost star 5

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    Possibly. After all, my experience was the opposite. How do you explain the more scientific exit polling data?
     
  24. Count Zero

    Count Zero Jedi Master star 4

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    No one said that everyone likes the movie. Helen keller could see that some people don't like it. They won't let anyone forget that they didn't like it. Thread is about review-bombing. TLJ wouldn't be the first time its happend.
     
  25. Ender_and_Bean

    Ender_and_Bean Chosen One star 6

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    When you mess with organized political groups though you’re playing with fire. Tribalism in the States is at an all time high and the alt right is tight nit and angry. They mobilize quickly and often and have big numbers of people.

    Their previous efforts against Star Wars were to boycott. Following the Ghostbusters takedown I wouldn’t be surprised if this is their new tactic.

    And again... the movie hasn’t enough to be divisive among a group of liberal Star Wars fanatics so a sizable portion is people like that obviously but throw this group on top and it’s significant. It’s not like there’s Bernie Sanders groups rallying to save the RT% score. Lol.
     
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