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Black Fleet Crisis ?

Discussion in 'Literature' started by Agonizer_181, Dec 1, 2001.

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  1. Knight1192

    Knight1192 Jedi Knight star 6

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    Personally, the only good book in the trilogy is Tyrant's Test. The other two, however, are so bad that they bring this one down with them.
     
  2. darthjarjarbinks

    darthjarjarbinks Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    BFC, along with the Corellian Trilogy, were those few breakthrough books that sought to go BEYOND the empire/alliance conflict. I think that also contributed to a lot of the poo-pooing it got, because fans were (perhaps subconsciously) always thinking "yeah, and where's the EMPIRE, DAMMIT!"

     
  3. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    yeah man, the K-Wings got dumped it seems. Which sucks because the Y-Wings are really out of date by now and should have been replaced.

    The K-Wings never even got an entry in the SW Encyclopedia. We demand justice! Here's hoping a future revision of the Essential Guide to Vehicles and Vessels includes them.
     
  4. Groovy_Ssi-Ruuvi

    Groovy_Ssi-Ruuvi Jedi Padawan star 4

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    That brings up an interesting point: since a new "expanded" eddition of the Guide to Characters is being released, featuring characters from the prequel era and NJO, will a revamped Guide to Vehicles and Vessels be on the horizon?
    I for one hope so; I'd love it if it included the Yuuzhan Vong ships, the Chiss claw-craft thing, and Anakin's "hotrod" from AotC.
     
  5. AthyraFire

    AthyraFire Jedi Youngling star 2

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    when i first read the BFC (the first EU novels i ever read) i thought they were pretty good. they've since dropped to so-so status after i began reading more of the EU. the Luke plotline goes absolutely no where. the Lando plotline was absolutely boring to me, although it was interesting getting to see so much from Lando's perspective. the Yvetha (sp) were an interesting race and a worthy (not laughably ridiculous as some) enemy to the NR. Nil Spaar was an interesting character.

    overall, they don't have that Star Wars feel to them. looking back, they're much more serious than i like in a Star Wars novel. the whole thing is just weird to me now, and i tried rereading them and i didn't get past the first two chapters of the first book.

    so: undertake them if you dare. it might be worth it to plow through if you *really* want to know the storyarc, etc., but i don't find them highly entertaining.
     
  6. Mastadge

    Mastadge Manager Emeritus star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I *think* that the plan is to go through and ultimated redo the whole essential guide series.
     
  7. FTeik

    FTeik Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Believe it or not, but the BFC contains some of the worst of StarWars and some of the best of StarWars at the same time.

    Fortunately it is divided in parts and you will soon recognize which are the good ones and which the bad ones.

    My advise is to read them and ignore the bad stuff.
     
  8. Genghis12

    Genghis12 Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    The 2nd Quest...
    There was a transition ship between the Y-Wing and the B-Wing. It was the little-seen H-Wing from SWRPG:

    The BTS-A2 Long-Range Strike Fighter/Bomber

    The BTS-A2 Long-Range Strike Fighter/Bomber (the Alliance designation is H-Wing) is a recent addition to rebel flight bays. Now
    manufactured by Koensayr and made famous for its rugged Y-Wing
    starfighter, it could only have been a matter of time before the Alliance
    military leaders chose to include the H-Wing in the rebel starfighter
    arsenal. Even so, the number in Alliance service is likely to remain
    low, as almost any two single-seat fighters can be purchased at a cost
    equal to that of one H-Wing.
    The H-Wing is a stable weapons platform capable of delivering a
    hard-hitting punch. Indeed, only the B-Wing is more heavily armed. The
    fighter's primary long-range weapon is a heavy laser cannon mounted in a
    fully rotating dorsal turret. This laser can only be fired from the
    turret's gunnery chair; no fire control for the top mount is included in
    the piloting cockpit.
    As in the Y-Wing, the H-Wing carries two Arakyd proton torpedo
    launchers. However, the H-Wing boasts a complete magazine of eight
    torpedos for each launcher - twice the payload carried by the earlier
    Y-Wing. The magazines are identical to those used in Y-Wings, making
    heavy ordinance standard for the two craft. This ordinance is benefited
    by an elaborately complex, improved fire control system, quite necessary
    for the craft to efficiently serve in its primary role as a strike
    fighter/bomber.
    The H-Wing's primary weapons systems are complemented by two light
    ion cannons (fire linked for greater effect), which are mounted in the
    starboard nose of the fighter's twin-nose hull. This weaponry has a
    maximum rotation and vertical pivot span of 40 degrees, which allows the
    gunner to engage forward targets independent of the craft's flight path.
    The H-Wing can survive intended combat engagements and multiple hits
    by using a heavily reinforced armoured hull, with added protection
    provided by strong, high-energy shields. But, weapons capability and
    hull integrity do not come without cost. Both maneuverability and
    sublight speed have been sacrificed for increased battle worthiness, thus
    creating a distinct disadvantage in that the H-Wing has very little
    chance of outrunning a numerically superior enemy or of disengaging prior
    to retreat.
    Though the H-Wing has obvious speed and maneuverability
    disadvantages, Alliance military planners believe it has a decided
    advantage in combat due to its full combat crew of three. Rebel pilots
    of advanced, single-seat fighters have often complained that they cannot
    make full use of their craft's various systems; with evasive maneuvering,
    operating several weapons systems, and angling shields, they are simply
    overtaxed. The H-Wing's three-man crew provides extremely efficient use
    of the ship's systems. The forward cockpit contains two crew stations:
    primary and secondary. Piloting controls are installed only at the
    primary station, but shield control, ion cannon, and torpedo fire control
    are installed at both stations. A common practice is to have shield
    control provided by the pilot, leaving torpedo and ion cannon control to
    the weapons officer at the secondary station.
    Many of the components used in the Y-Wing were adapted for use in
    the H-Wing, such as an improved Fabritech ANx-y sensor package and
    Koensayr Ion Jet engines - complete with thrust vectrals, though larger
    engines are employed on the H-Wing. Many components were not used. For
    instance, instead of using an R2 unit to provide nav data, a limited man
    computer similiar to that used in the B-Wing is employed, although the
    H-Wing has a higher data storage capacity. Also, the H-Wing does not
    employ ballistic ejection seats. That option simply isn't feasible in
    the tight space remaining after all systems are installed. The fight
     
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