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Blocking blaster bolts is impossible.

Discussion in 'Literature' started by darth-skycrawler, Oct 28, 2001.

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  1. darth-skycrawler

    darth-skycrawler Jedi Master star 2

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    In rebirth Anakin seems to be able to block blaster bolts without using the force. Is it just me or does anyone else think that is impossible. The only reson the jedi can block blaster bolts is becasue they see the future and can move in time to block the bolt.

    Now without the force they are just normal people and would have no chance of being fast enough to block a blaster bolt. A lightsabre without the force is a useless weapon. Do you think that anybody in the world today could block a bullet with a sword.

     
  2. ShinagamiWing

    ShinagamiWing Jedi Youngling star 4

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    As a practitioner of Kenjustu, I'm going to tell you this right now; lightsabers could never be useless. I usually use a bamboo Shinai as a substitute for an actual Diato or Katana, but lightsabers far surpass any of our modern swords and a good many of our present-day firearms. And although I don't know anyone who could block a bullet, I'll say that I'm not totally sure it's impossible to see where the gun is pointed and act on it for the best fencers. And also... where did you actually see that it said he did not use the force? I don't remember that.
     
  3. Veng_Commando

    Veng_Commando Jedi Padawan star 4

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    whatsa diato and katana?
     
  4. ShinagamiWing

    ShinagamiWing Jedi Youngling star 4

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    Diato = A straight sword, usually forty inchies or more, with a single-edged blade.

    (When I say single-edged blade, I just mean that it's like a steak knife - it only cuts on way.)

    Katana = The traditional sword of Japanese nobles, a slightly curved, forty-five inch or longer single-edged blade. Used in the thousands by medieval samurai.

    Kenjutsu = The art of the blade, in Japanese tradition. A fencing method that is somewhat impractical (I admit it) in that it only allows cuts to the head, neck, leg, or forearm and stabbing may only be done from the back, as dictated by the samurai's code of honor.

    Samurai = The feudal Japanese "Knight", who worked as a mercenary, but had his own code of integrity to which he must adhire. He might attach himself to a lord and serve as retainer to that lord for his entire life. Samurai were masters of many weapons of the martial arts, but used swords most often in the fighting art of Kenjutsu.

    Shinai = A kenjutsu practice blade made up of several bamboo shafts banded together.
     
  5. PrinceXizor

    PrinceXizor Former TF.N Foreign Book Cover Staff star 5 VIP

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    I thought the Katana was a fleet of warships... ;)
     
  6. Veng_Commando

    Veng_Commando Jedi Padawan star 4

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    but wouldn't making a double bladed sword be simple? take a hilt, put a gaurd on the edges of the hilt, add blades to the sides, and viola, a double bladed sword. Then again,an average slice will kill you with the other end.
     
  7. Mayo_Solo

    Mayo_Solo Jedi Padawan star 4

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    I would think that using a lightsaber without the force is posible by sw standards. Leia did ii in Splinter of the Minds Eye. I you haven't read it then you wouldn't know what I'm talking about.
     
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  8. JediJSolo

    JediJSolo Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Jacen killed a few Vong worriers with his lightsaber in BP without the Force.
     
  9. Wedge 88

    Wedge 88 Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    "I thought the Katana was a fleet of warships..."

    No one likes a smart arse, but the Katana was officially just the name of the flagship.
     
  10. Rogue_Starbuck

    Rogue_Starbuck Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Katana's are my fav swords.

    And I thought Anakin was using the force in Rebirth??
     
  11. Wedge 88

    Wedge 88 Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    Yes, he probably was.

    Its the same way Jacen was able to knock away a few thud bugs and stuff in BP. And Anakin doing the same in Conquest.

    The Force quickens the reflexes as WELL as lets a Jedi see the path of things. So, Jacen couldn't see the path of the thudbug, but he had superhuman reflexes to be able to swing his blade around to the right spot.

    And Anakin can "sense" Vong now.

    I don't see the problem.
     
  12. Ghent42

    Ghent42 Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Haven't you guys seen Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon? They didn't have the Force. And yes, I know blocking little needles with a sword is most likely impossible, but with enought training, normal ppl in SW could probably come close to a Jedi's skill with the lightsaber.
     
  13. Wedge 88

    Wedge 88 Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon also deals with mystical magical and un-natural superhuman weapons and powers.

    Maybe someone could block blasters bolts and what have you without the Force. But it would take a lot of training and patience. One in a trillion persons could maybe do it.

    And before anyone says Kir Kanos could do it, it is now offical that all of Palpatine's Royal Guardsmen had minute Force powers. Enought to give them that extra fighting edge. But not enought to make them powerful enought to take out Palpatine himself.
     
  14. Valiento

    Valiento Jedi Knight star 7

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    Yet, those same royal guardsmen could have more power, and train on it secretly to enhance it if they got the time.
     
  15. Wedge 88

    Wedge 88 Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    Yes, of course. Most of them probably didn't even know about their own Force powers. Like Kanos.

    Canor Jax though was fairly strong and was trained by a Sith. Palpatine shouldn't of kept him around as we all know what happens.
     
  16. Ghent42

    Ghent42 Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Cool, I didn't know about the royal gaurd thing. Where did you find it?
     
  17. Tiershon_Fett

    Tiershon_Fett Jedi Knight star 5

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    Shinai = A kenjutsu practice blade made up of several bamboo shafts banded together.

    Aren't shinai's heavier than the actual sword? Most practice ones are made of nerf (now behave) material nowadays. I think it makes for a weaker arm.

    I think it would be easy to deflect laser bolt with a saber. They aren't exactly stealthy, are they?
     
  18. Genghis12

    Genghis12 Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Tiershon...
    "Shinai = A kenjutsu practice blade made up of several bamboo shafts banded together.
    Aren't shinai's heavier than the actual sword?
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    Don't confuse a shinai with a boken. Shinai's were always extremely light. Bamboo is a light, but strong material. Because it's several pieces banded together, they also have "hollow cores." Shinai's were never heavy, even the highest quality ones. Shinai's "sting," they are flexible and crack a person like a whip or rolled-up towel.

    Now, on the contrary, are those other practice swords, the boken. They're solid wood swords. They're pretty heavy and can crack your skull open if you get knocked upside the head with one.
     
  19. Matthew Trias

    Matthew Trias Force Ghost star 6

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    "And before anyone says Kir Kanos could do it, it is now offical that all of Palpatine's Royal Guardsmen had minute Force powers. Enought to give them that extra fighting edge. But not enought to make them powerful enought to take out Palpatine himself. "

    Not all of them.Just a select few.Those who were Force sensitive were sent to Yinchorr for training.

    Yes ,Kanos was Force sensitive since he trained on Yinchorr..but eh.It was a dumb retro fix.They always meant for him to be a normal person ,IMO.
     
  20. ShinagamiWing

    ShinagamiWing Jedi Youngling star 4

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    Very nice, Ghengis. Are you a kenteka? Anyway, just to tell you, at my school, we use only shinai for our practices and sparring - in demonstration we use real swords under coreographed circumstances and wear leather over our armor for safety. We don't use bokken, because a good smack in the head with one could fracture your skull, even if you wear armor. Now, you could use shinai without protective armor, but yee-owch! Getting hit in the head with a bamboo rod does hurt, you know!

    I wish we used lightsabers - after all, you can adjust the power settings for safety and the blade is virtually weightless. One all-purpose blade, armor unesscessary.
     
  21. PrinceXizor

    PrinceXizor Former TF.N Foreign Book Cover Staff star 5 VIP

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    "I thought the Katana was a fleet of warships..."

    No one likes a smart arse, but the Katana was officially just the name of the flagship.


    Yes, but the fleet was named after its flagship. Officially. :p
     
  22. Wedge 88

    Wedge 88 Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    Well, maybe it was after it had been lost.
     
  23. Genghis12

    Genghis12 Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    ShinagamiWing...
    "Very nice, Ghengis. Are you a kenteka?"

    I had some exposure nine years ago. A fellow university next door to mine had a Kendo instructor. I stuck with it for two semesters. Enough to get a good introduction to it. I most likely would have stuck with it, except the master did it in his spare time and liked early morning class - it was a 6:30 class. Just couldn't hold out as a college freshman. I still ahve my shinai and my pants came in handy for my Darth Maul costume last year. I sparred enough to be able to agree that...

    "[i}Now, you could use shinai without protective armor, but yee-owch! Getting hit in the head with a bamboo rod does hurt, you know![/i]"

    Oh yes - and will leave a freaking mark for days!!

    I'm most impressed you use swords. A good display of skill is most impressive indeed. We were allowed to, but only at the highest level. There was one other person besides the master in the classes to do so. If I could find a decent school around where I live I might think about getting back into it. Good fun I have to admit.
     
  24. Valiento

    Valiento Jedi Knight star 7

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    "I wish we used lightsabers - after all, you can adjust the power settings for safety and the blade is virtually weightless"

    Actually that depends on the lightsaber and the jedi. On if He/she built that feature into the saber.
     
  25. ShinagamiWing

    ShinagamiWing Jedi Youngling star 4

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    Best of luck to you - "Our way is a hard one, but it is ours."
     
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