good grief. don't blame me for being sarcastic....highlight me as a flamer if you want and spank my rear but this thread...... equals WHINE! WHINE! WHINE! get off the soapbox el cheapo. Here we go, the obligatory band reference. yep i'm in band. i'm in many organizations actually come to think of it, but band i find is very comparable to this situation. WHy? because you have drum majors and band officers as the 'elite' of the band. People that are held in contempt for their supposed egotism and unfairly getting to do 'cool' stuff, and also that they kissed asses to get where they are. sometimes i just want to smack those people. I've been there, on the 'inferior' side, and on the 'superior' side. It doesn't seem to ever change. the 'elite' people work their butt's off to help the 'inferiors', sacrificing their time, their patience, and sometimes their sanity to help these people, mostly because they genuinely want to help people, and they get **** back for it. You know, these things happen. That's why people that bitch all the time need to cry a river, build a bridge, and get over it. Basically, because there ain't much you can do in this situation. The setup works, there's only so far you can walk down the path towards a utopian society before you can get no further. You do know that right? that utopia is impossible? what were you trying to accomplish? equality among the members of the boards? I'm sorry dear, but there are quite a few members on the boards that I wouldnt' dare dream see have any kind of 'status' on here besides stupid and muttering to themselves. farraday being out of hand and whatever else it was you said, <sorry i did actually read about all four pages of this b.s.>, have you chatted with him on IM? he's a puppy dog on the boards who does his job well compared to the sarcasm etc. he shows on IM. Sapient. well where to go with this. kissing ass. heh. everyone does that you know. at some point in there lives if not every moment in their life. get over it, once again. I was not around for the sapient kissing spree, but i've heard about it from both sides of the fence. It sounds similar to band once again, if you know you have the skills, and you know that you want to genuinely help people, then you let the people who stand a chance of hiring you for the spot know so they don't skip you over. and on a board like this where it's easy to get skipped over you better put your wishes in bold, highlighted, and underlined or it may just never come into the limelight. edit: sorry, finger got numb after awhile and forgot a '/' for a markup code.