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ST Bounty Hunters in the ST

Discussion in 'Sequel Trilogy' started by Sitara, Mar 17, 2013.

  1. Pfluegermeister

    Pfluegermeister Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    But why would we need to know something like that? It couldn't possibly be important to the story, because this film, and this trilogy, is not going to be about Han Solo; it's not going to be primarily about ANY of the Big Three; it's going to be primarily about the generation that comes AFTER them. This need for fan service is going to kill this new trilogy in the cradle. Whatever happens in the ST, it's not going to be the OT: Part II. It's going to be - and needs to be - it's own thing.
     
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  2. The Hellhammer

    The Hellhammer Manager Emeritus star 5 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    "Make Han explain why he hates droids"?

    [face_laugh]

    Ah, you guys...
     
  3. ezekiel22x

    ezekiel22x Chosen One star 5

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    Fan service in a film that everyone in the world expects to feature new characters named Solo and Skywalker...say it ain't so!
     
  4. StoneRiver

    StoneRiver Force Ghost star 4

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    Weren't the Magna Guards (or whatever they're called) a precursor to the IG model? If so, then we can say we've already had IG action in the films...
     
  5. The Hellhammer

    The Hellhammer Manager Emeritus star 5 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Someone should resurrect that "Porkins in Episode 7" thread.
    What was even funnier than people joking around, were the people taking it seriously.
     
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  6. Jedirush2112

    Jedirush2112 Jedi Master star 4

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    I agree, I meant more of a one liner like Obi-Wan's" Blast, this is why I hate Flying" line in AOTC during the asteroid chase. Han could be startled and attacked by IG-88 and then state the line.
     
  7. Pfluegermeister

    Pfluegermeister Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    But you're still missing my point: people shouldn't WANT to see that. Han Solo shouldn't even HAVE an action scene in this film (and you can't startle and attack Han Solo without causing a hell of an action scene, or you demean the character) because the film will have no time in which to do one; such a scene would take up at least five minutes or more of valuable screen time to both set up and resolve, in a film that's only about two hours long and will already have a hell of a lot on its plate from frame one. That's just time wasted, and for what? Just so someone can see a nothing-character like IG-88 attack Han Solo and make him quip about why he hates droids. That's not a good enough reason to have such a scene. Disney/LFL wouldn't and shouldn't waste that kind of screen time on Han Solo, because the film will not be enough about him to merit him having an action scene. It CANNOT be.

    If you agree that the trilogy needs to be its own thing, why then undercut that basic need by insisting that the Big Three need action scenes that will make the film more about them when it shouldn't be? IT'S NOT THEIR TRILOGY. They've already HAD their trilogy. They've already had their chance to have action scenes. Their purpose in this film is to pass the torch, PERIOD.

    If whatever new, younger characters have been devised are ever going to come to the fore, then the Big Three have to be as minimized as much as possible. I'm sure I don't have to remind people that one of the major problems with the EU was that it REFUSED to let the next generation of characters ever truly take the reins, and kept the Big Three on far longer than was necessary or helpful, and made them exact reproductions of their younger OT selves when it was plainly obvious that they couldn't be those people anymore and have us as readers believe it; why would we want the same from the ST when we've already seen that such an approach doesn't work?

    This is why I'm challenging the idea that IG-88 should be in this film, or has any right to be. It's action-figure thinking: "Hey, wouldn't it be cool if IG-88 returned and attacked Han Solo and Han would make a joke and then go pew-pew-pew with his blaster?" Well, no, they shouldn't be making this film just so us fanboys can watch the scenes we acted out with our action figures when we were kids play out on screen, because it would utterly deface all the potential this new trilogy has to be a deeply engaging story in its own right. The ST catering to fanboys will be as destructive as was the PT catering to kids; either way, the result will be a bloody mess.
     
  8. I Are The Internets

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  9. The Hellhammer

    The Hellhammer Manager Emeritus star 5 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    It would be great to have a whole movie of such lines. Like a tour guide, referencing anything that has been said in passing or mentioned in any way shape or form during PT/OT. The character would get in a situation, turn to the camera, his one hand pointing at the object in question and slowly, directly and explicitly explain to the audience the horrifyingly, painfully, insanely irrelevant piece of non-information.

    "THIS is why Han Solo dislikes droids."
    "And THESE are the spice mines of Kessel."
    "And THIS is the bounty hunter we ran into on Ord Mantell."
    "THIS is the descendant of the guy to who Luke sold his speeder."
    "Also, HERE is one of the moons of Bogden."
    "Wow, Chewie, look - THIS is the recording of the message where they notified Tarkin that the Emperor has dissolved the Council permanently!"
     
  10. LunarMoth

    LunarMoth Jedi Master star 4

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    And THIS is the cow that gives blue milk......
     
  11. BigAl6ft6

    BigAl6ft6 Chosen One star 8

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    And THAT'S why you always leave a note (that the Jedi should stay away from the temple after Order 66)
     
  12. I Are The Internets

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    Well now I hope VII has a narrator.
     
  13. Pfluegermeister

    Pfluegermeister Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Although, to be fair, we probably could have benefitted from someone saying, "and THIS is the actual text of the Prophecy of the Chosen One..." :p
     
  14. Jedirush2112

    Jedirush2112 Jedi Master star 4

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    Ok fine! Then have IG-88 kill Han Solo, Lando and Chewie, then fly away with the Falcon and abduct Leia, which will Force Luke and the (New) Protagonist(s) (The Solo Kids) come and rescue her. Not only that but I want Bossk in the film too, and I want them to have a baby named Boss Nass T-69. And I want the fat dancing chick from ROTJ to be the Nanny and Ahsoka Tano to be the God Mother. Is that too much to ask?

    Oh! Can you please explain again why the Big 3 shouldn't have any action scenes. I don't think I caught that. [face_dunno]
     
  15. miasma

    miasma Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I was really hoping that there would be a scene in the prequels where Anakin gets hit by an asteroid and nothing happens to him. As he brushes himself off, he could say, "I guess I don't need to be concerned about asteroids."
     
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  16. Darth Chiznuk

    Darth Chiznuk Superninja of Future Films star 8 Staff Member Manager

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    Meltdown post of the year! :p
     
  17. I Are The Internets

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    Holy fan rage Batman!
     
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  18. Count Yubnub

    Count Yubnub Force Ghost star 5

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  19. Darth Chiznuk

    Darth Chiznuk Superninja of Future Films star 8 Staff Member Manager

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    I agree with him completely that the Big 3 can and in all likelihood will have a few action scenes. Luke will almost certainly have a lightsaber duel at some point, Han could very well be involved in a battle scene, Leia could be involved in either as well. It won't take anything away from the new heroes as I'm sure they'll receive the majority of action scenes anyway.
     
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  20. sons_of_anakin_tatooine

    sons_of_anakin_tatooine Jedi Knight star 3

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    did you see the video of hamill from celebration europe 2?

    poor guy looked horrible. i noticed his arm and hand was shaking and i thought maybe he has what j fox has and i hope im wrong
     
  21. Darth Chiznuk

    Darth Chiznuk Superninja of Future Films star 8 Staff Member Manager

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    Yes I did and I thought he looked fantastic. It's going to be a real treat to see him up on the big screen again.
     
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  22. Count Yubnub

    Count Yubnub Force Ghost star 5

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    I looked around YouTube for a bit, but I can't find any video where he's showing any Parkinson's Disease-type symptoms. What video is this?
     
  23. sons_of_anakin_tatooine

    sons_of_anakin_tatooine Jedi Knight star 3

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    watch his hand. maybe its me but i am still concerned
     
  24. Darth Chiznuk

    Darth Chiznuk Superninja of Future Films star 8 Staff Member Manager

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    He had his hand on his knee and it vibrated when he was tapping his leg. That's all I saw in that video.
     
  25. JediGirl_Angelina

    JediGirl_Angelina Jedi Grand Master star 3

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    Well, to be honest, during his time on the stage, he hinted quite a lot that he would be suffering from short term memory loss. At first, I thought he was joking, but he mentioned it 3 or 4 times so it kinda felt weird. I was worried.