Buffy The Vampire Slayer/Angel Into the Hellmouths Of The World

Well I have seen up til hush on season4 and I still find it fun and entertaining A bit different from the 3 previous with Angel, Cordy and Oz leaving but then you got more Spike wich is always funny and Anya.

Hush is probably the best episode yet

 

Hush is an amazing episode. And the Halloween episode from season 4 wasn't to bad. But it still is my least fave of them all. Season 5 got back up to the first 3 seasons writing at least in my opinion. And Season 6 isn't to bad if you can get over a couple things. I don't remember enough of season 7 to say if I liked it or not.

~PK~

 

Well I finished the whole series some time ago. I liked the 4th and 5th but it went down after that. Not that it was bad but it lost the fun factor and became more soap opera like The 7th could have been better if it was not for those potentials and how they messed up the whole chosen one myth. Pleased with the overral quality and seasons 2 and 3 rocked

 

My favorite Buffy season was Season 2, while I felt Season 4 to be the weakest. However, as many have already pointed out, there are still many good episodes in Season 4. I pretty much think Buffy is like pizza (or "Star Wars", for that matter )...Even when it's bad, it's still pretty good.

 

Ain't It Cool News are reporting that Joss Whedon has stated he hopes to launch ?Ripper? as a 90-minute BBC movie in 2008.

AICN article

 

Check out my Buffy & Angel comic thread for news on Angel Season Six and Buffy Season Nine!!!!

 

I haven't read the comics yet, I'm waiting for the trade to come out.

Just picked up Angel seasons 2 and 3 on DVD (along with Firefly TCS and the Serenity 2-disc special edition ). Just need seasons 1, 4 and 5 to round out my Joss Whedon collection.

Just curious, has anyone here read "Go Ask Malice" or "Queen of Slayers"? (I probably shouldn't bring up the novels in this thread, but I was wondering )

 

I've read both. You can see my review of "Go Ask Malice" in my thread in the book section. I'll let you know about "Queen Of The Slayers" in private. November is when "The Long Way Home" for Buffy comes out. "Spike: Aslyum" is out in trade now and "Spike: Shadow Puppets" will be in trade next year. They're the set up for "Angel: After The Fall".

 

Buffy Season 8 is going amazing so far.

~PK~

 

I've got a question about Glory. Well a question about Dawn too.

My first is, how long has Glory been on Earth? I don't recall it ever being explicitly stated in the series, but I had assumed that she was passed from boy to boy throughout the centuries. However, I've been told that she's only ever been in Ben. This is kinda confusing cause it makes the Knights of Byzantium seem a wee bit odd. If Glory had only just been sent to this dimension 20-30 years ago, why have they (the Knights) been around for so long? Just to destroy the key on the off chance that a Hell God gets banished to our dimension? If that's the case, why didn't they make any further attempts on Dawn's life after the Gift? That couldn't have been the entire order that Glory wiped out.

As to Dawn, is she not the Key anymore? I mean, can she not be used to open portals to other dimensions? Her whole origin seems a little overly contrived if she's only useful in one painstakingly specific scenario.

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

 

I'm not totally sure, but I thought that it was explained that Glory wasn't able to enter her home dimension but she crossed other dimensions/realities searching for the Key. She then merged with Ben and only in course of Season Five was able to overcome him for long periods of time and search for the Key.

 

1. Glory has occupied Ben's body since he was born. It has not been stated if she occupied other bodies. Thus the conclusion is that she has been on Earth for as long as Ben has been alive. Which is nearly 30 years. The Knights have known about Glory, because they, like the Watchers have been aware of demons and hell gods in other dimensions for quite some time. I don't believe their job has always been to destroy the Key, but it became that way once they were made aware of Glory and the other hell gods. Remember that before mankind, there were the aincent demons that walked the Earth. When mankind began to populate the Earth, the Shamen and the Guardians along with everyone else from that era banished or destroyed the old ones. All that was left were the half breeds and lesser demons. Glory and her crew were made known to the Knights and they've sworn an oath to stop them. When they learned that Glory was on Earth and the Key could bring hell on Earth, they set out to destroy it.

2. Dawn's still technically the Key, but the conditions for her blood to be used to open the portal back to Glory's dimension has passed. It did so after Buffy's death. Remember, Glory was on a timetable and any delay would result in her being trapped on Earth. With Glory weakening, her victims were restored to normal and her other minons no longer cared to follow her wishes. Especially when Giles killed Ben and by extention, Glory herself.

 

It's one of my most favorite sci-fi, horror show and i never want it to be end just after season 7. Although they have still not canceled BTVS, but i now i don't think they will announce it again.

 

Why unlock this thread? there was another Buffy thread with an episode by episode review (by 2nd Quest?)

Buffy was good, better, great, and then fell flat, died, buried under 6ft of crud, and then started digging. Only during season 7 did it sorta start to recover, but meh.