I know a host of muslim worshippers whose services have been invaded by the FBI (not to mention some rather surly librarians) who would be happy to oblige you . As far as individual citizens go, well, it's hard to protest the actions of the government when they can search your home without your ever even knowing, isn't it ? V03, come on, this doesn't seem like you at all. If you want to carry this debate over to the Patriot Act thread, I would like to discuss it with you. For example, I can tell you right now that "sneek and peek" warrants did not originate with the Patriot Act, and they still have to conform with procedure. As for your other claims, as far as I know, they are nothing more than urban legends. For some reason, people believe that Ashcroft has the ability to suspend the Constitution, which is not the case at all. You can't stereotype law enforcement as a group of "civil rights violators," any more than you can stereotype doctors as caring about money more than patients. It isn't fair, and such a practice is born out of misunderstanding, more than anything.