Lit CAD BANE IS DUROS... AND SHEEV'S ALL THAT - The Lit Forum Social Thread, v2.0

Discussion in 'Literature' started by Master_Keralys, Jan 1, 2009.

  1. instantdeath Force Ghost

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    Only makes me bitter for the lack of Watch Dogs.
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  4. GrandAdmiralJello Moderator Communitatis Litterarumque

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    The chatroom is just slightly more racist than youtube.

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  5. The Loyal Imperial Manager Emeritus

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    Holy orders!

    Pilgrimages!

    300+ new events!

    Event-driven crusades!

    Rebalanced combat!

    New traits!

    Revised heresies!

    Female priests!

    Jewish mechanics!

    November 18!

    Even larger next expansion!
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  6. Gorefiend Chosen One

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    But... Pirates :D
  7. GrandAdmiralJello Moderator Communitatis Litterarumque

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    But my car isn't broken?
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    Yeah Paradox players can be pretty bad in that regard. I chalk it up to refighting history and the religious wars that came out of Medieval history.
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    Anyway, aside from non-rando popes, my favorite feature is probably heresies being able to become mainstream. That's awesome. Finally gives people a reason to play as them aside from the free CB.


    Also they better include Persian hats in this one.
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  10. instantdeath Force Ghost

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    But... new IP and insanely interesting premise! :(

    And huh, Paradox players racist? As a somewhat filthy casual Crusader Kings II player, I guess I had this image that the games primary fanbase would be people naturally drawn to pipes, cozy arm chairs and very fine hats. Then again, I guess historically these kind of people do tend to be some of the more racist ones :p
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    A lot of them are European, and Europe has lately had... some issues with ultra-nationalism and the like. It's actually kind of scary because you'd expect those racist types to be the European equivalent of rednecks, but here they are, at least somewhat conversant with history and the like, talking about how Italians are as white as driven snow and how teh Islams are coming to take their freedoms or something.

    I guess I had this image that the games primary fanbase would be people naturally drawn to pipes, cozy arm chairs and very fine hats

    No, that's just me. Minus the pipes, smoking is awful.

    Then again, I guess historically these kind of people do tend to be some of the more racist ones :p

    HEY! I am only racist against fish. @AdmiralNick22
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  12. Gorefiend Chosen One

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    Yeah but no pirates :p


    Trust me, I have known some, they are. [face_plain]
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  14. Ulicus Lit'ari

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    Yeah, a hefty chunk of the vocal Paradox fanbase disgusts me.
  15. instantdeath Force Ghost

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    So, I haven't had a chance to play Rome II yet, though I happened to take a look at the Metacritic user score: a 3.8. Now, at the risk of forming an opinion for a game that I haven't played, I have to do a reflexive "lolwut?" at that. So we're clear, as far as metacritic is concerned, Rome II is a worse game than Big Rigs: Over the Road Racing. It reminds me mostly of Mass Effect 3. Upon the release, the score was similarly abysmal (though they have since gone up quite a bit, presumably once tempers cooled). It's situations like this that make me laugh at the notion that broad spectrum user reviews tend to be more reliable than professional critics: while the latter are far, far from perfect, they are at least paid to at least attempt to review a product objectively, looking at the entire package and weighing pro's and cons accordingly. With metacritic scores, you get legions of people judging based on emotions and gut reactions, rather than attempting to judge how well made the product actually is.

    Still, I am very curious: what has gamers so angry over Rome II? Is it due to glitches or gameplay problems that aren't likely to ever be fixed with updates?
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    There's a couple of factors. First, it is a bit buggy. More importantly, the fan community is looking at Rome 1 with massively Rose-tinted glasses and judging Rome 2 by those standards. It's a great game, otherwise I wouldn't currently have over 200 hours logged on it. Are there problems? Sure. There's historical accuracy issues, some AI issues, lack of unit diversity for certain factions, and various other complaints. But (and using the full 1-10 scale) I'd easily give it an 8.5 out of 10. The fan backlash over the game is just ridiculous and spiteful. It's reached the point where I just avoid the Total War forums; r/totalwar isn't massively better, although the atmosphere there is a bit more positive. The dev team is patching the game on a weekly basis, fixing a myriad of problems, they've released some DLC factions for free as an apology, they're constantly working on the game to improve it. Skyrim didn't get this much post-release support (yes, I'm still bitter over the lack of spears!).
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  17. Vialco Force Ghost

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    I take one day off and the company fires my boss and two of my co-workers:(. Survivor's guilt is a difficult thing to bear.
  18. The Loyal Imperial Manager Emeritus

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    Did you at least get a promotion?
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  19. GrandAdmiralJello Moderator Communitatis Litterarumque

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    LI, thinking like a crewmember of the Executor. Have a bit of a heart :p
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    My PC is becoming overrun by Eevees from Wonder Trade. Soon I'll have an Eevee for each Eevolution. Got a Hawlucha from Wonder Trade, too, and a female Sneasel.

    Still getting just crap, Jello? Catch some trading fodder and offer it up and you'll eventually get something decent.
  21. MercenaryAce Force Ghost

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    Wow...I never even heard of two of those groups they are adding in the DLC.

    Sometimes I forget just how little I actually know about history, in spite of all my years studying it.
  22. RC-1991 Force Ghost

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    Well, the Massagetae are mentioned in Herodotus, though it's best to take what he says about any non-Hellenic culture with a dollop of salt. Herodotus does mention that they were the ones who slew Cyrus the Great of the Achaemenid Empire in battle. The Roxolani I'm not familiar with at all, other than them being a steppe culture.
  23. Vialco Force Ghost

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    In January, but it's bittersweet. I miss my boss already:(
  24. Zeta1127 Force Ghost

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    I have a deep appreciation for history, but games lately, namely 0 A.D. and Total War (I have never actually played a Total War game, but all of this discussion about Rome II going back to before its release has been very informative), have been featuring a few obscure civilizations that I am unfamiliar with.
  25. GrandAdmiralJello Moderator Communitatis Litterarumque

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    I know about the steppe nomads, but my knowledge of them is pretty razor thin. It mostly comes from internalizing Roman biases and prejudices about them, hah!

    Trak: Haven't played the game for a while. I lost to the Champion and then sort of just got burnt out. Been doing a lot of reading lately instead.