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Lit Can Darth Maul use Force lightning?

Discussion in 'Literature' started by Max Nocerino, Jan 16, 2014.

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  1. Max Nocerino

    Max Nocerino Jedi Knight star 1

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    In certain games he's seen using it like the TPM game and Jedi Power Battles, but those are just game mechanics. In Star Wars: The Clone Wars magazine, in the Sith smack down piece, Force Lightning is listed as one of his abilities. Again, unreliable. The only mention of Force Lightning, is in the short story Restraint, it is mentioned that a 15 year old Maul could not yet use this power. So my question is. By 32 BBY, could Maul use this power or then by 21 BBY
     
  2. instantdeath

    instantdeath Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    I imagine that he can, it's just not one of his favored skills. Even though it's never brought up in George Lucas' vision of a Jedi order composed entirely of clones, I do actually like the older model of Force users that suggest some are more talented in certain areas of the Force than others. For Maul, he'd be fantastic with the martial abilities (speed/strength enhancement, precognition), but less adept in areas like Force lightning.
     
  3. Zorrixor

    Zorrixor Chosen One star 6

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    Like instantdeath I prefer to think of Maul as just focusing on his martial training more than his sorcery.

    Not that I put it past some future source ever deciding to have him just do it for the kriff of it.
     
  4. _Catherine_

    _Catherine_ Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Can Warb Null use Deadly Sight?
     
  5. DigitalMessiah

    DigitalMessiah Chosen One star 6

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    No he's wearing a helmet.

    Edit: This reminds me of a discussion on the SWTOR forums over whether Revan knew shatterpoint. Because of course he did.
     
  6. The_Phantom_Calamari

    The_Phantom_Calamari Force Ghost star 5

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    Going by the usual standards of EU evidence, I'd say Maul knows Force lightning. But like was said, it doesn't appear to be one of his favored abilities.
     
  7. mes520

    mes520 Jedi Master star 4

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    I believe in Darth Plagueis he mentioned a Nightsister that came at him with Force Lightning but he stopped her. So that always sounded to me that he knew about it
     
  8. The_Phantom_Calamari

    The_Phantom_Calamari Force Ghost star 5

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    Well, obviously he knew about it. He was apprenticed to a guy who counts "tormenting sentients with soul-sucking electric bolts" as being among his most cherished hobbies.
     
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  9. DigitalMessiah

    DigitalMessiah Chosen One star 6

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  10. instantdeath

    instantdeath Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    It should be noted that, despite the boast, Maul does stand up to Force lightning: he takes it and decapitates her. All this really says in relation to Maul is that he's really great at taking pain.
     
  11. Iron_lord

    Iron_lord Chosen One star 10

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    Plagueis claims that the only way to learn to use Force Lightning, is to have been hit by it at least once.

    I don't think this is much supported by the rest of the EU though.
     
  12. instantdeath

    instantdeath Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    I take that more as a philosophical statement than a fact. Same as "the only way to be able to throw a punch is to be able to take one". Obviously not strictly true, but there is a level of truth there.

    I imagine most of the 10,000,000 EU Sith who spam Force lightning would crumble if they were actually hit by it.
     
  13. Rauno

    Rauno Jedi Knight star 1

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    Impossible to say imo. He seems to heavily favor close-combat and all it's attributes so why would he waste his time on learning force lightning knowing it doesn't suit his style and he's not going to master it anyway.

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  14. EECHUUTA

    EECHUUTA Jedi Master star 4

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    What Rauno says, pretty much. I think Maul likes to be up close and personal when he kills someone, not standing at a distance frying someone out of his opponent's reach. If I were Maul, I'd think that was a bit cowardly for me to blast someone from far away, I'd end up directing my Force abilities into being super fast, super strong, and being able to see the moves of my enemy before he even thought of them himself. It wouldn't mean that I didn't know how to throw Force Lightning (always still useful for some application) it just wouldn't be what I'd direct much time into learning beyond the basics.
     
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  15. Sannom

    Sannom Jedi Master star 3

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    Well Kreia certainly did, so why not her greatest (beside the Exile, that is) student :D ? Please tell me someone used this as an argument.

    As for the topic : Maul has always had a tendency to shun some of the "traditional" Sith teachings and methods, like their favourite lightsaber style or the lightning, preferring to use only his physical skills and his wits to win his fights. It's telling that the only opponent against whom he uses taunts and mindgames is Obi-Wan, his nemesis.
     
  16. DEATHCONQUEROR

    DEATHCONQUEROR Jedi Knight star 1

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    Not sure, though it would be pretty awesome if, for example, we saw him in his road to becoming his own Master in the Son of Dathomir series, go through a personal great inner and outer struggle to master things he had previously failed to do.....and in an epic climactic scene in one of the four part comics, we see him unleash Sith Lightning with a lightsaber in another hand, for the first time ever. Just my two cents of what could be potentially awesome, but we'll just have to wait and see if he ever does.
     
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  17. SithStarSlayer

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    Lightning Vos.JPG
    IIRC, Vos wrecked Pol Secura with it and didn't know his own name at the time.
     
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  18. Iron_lord

    Iron_lord Chosen One star 10

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    That might be the "fascimile" Plagueis speaks of:

    "A Jedi sufficiently strong in the Force can be trained to produce a fascimile, but not true Sith lightning, which, unabated, has the power not only to incapacitate or kill, but to physically transform the victim. Force lightning requires a strength of a sort only a Sith can command because we accept consequence and reject compassion. To do so requires a thirst for power that is not easily satisfied. The Force tries to resist the callings of ravenous spirits; therefore it must be broken and made a beast of burden. It must be made to answer to one's will."
    "But the Force cannot be treated deferentially," he added as a few final tendrils sparked from his fingertips. "In order to summon and use lightning properly, you will someday have to be on the receiving end of its power, as a means of taking the energy inside yourself."

     
  19. SithStarSlayer

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    Yeah, I'm familiar with Hego's opinion but I thought Vos produced raw lightning...
    like a Sith would... drawing on his anger.
    [face_dunno]
     
  20. DigitalMessiah

    DigitalMessiah Chosen One star 6

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    Yeah, but it's not real Sith lightning. :p
     
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  21. SithStarSlayer

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    How can he be held to the Sith standard, when he didn't even know he was a Jedi at that moment?
    :p
     
  22. Iron_lord

    Iron_lord Chosen One star 10

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    Even without his memory, Vos was never really someone with "a thirst for power that is not easily satisfied".

    Though a simpler explanation would be that Plagueis is trying to impress his apprentice, and bending the truth a bit.
     
  23. SithStarSlayer

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    The Guardian's thirst for vengeance was primal... but Plagueis was right about fallen Jedi. They have to justify their turns and Sith without Jedi dogma to overcome, don't have the same "doubt issues" when taking action and dealing with the consequences
     
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  24. Erkan12

    Erkan12 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    With his TK level, absolutely he should use it.

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  25. Jobertus

    Jobertus Jedi Knight star 3

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    Darth Maul was nothing more than a tool of Darth Sidious'. More a Sith Assassin than an actual Sith Lord, even if he did bear the title of a Sith Lord. Could he have learned the skill of possessing Sith lightning? Yes. Did he know it? I'm not so sure about that.


    I have not seen any Clone Wars episodes with Darth Maul in them, so I base all my knowledge in EP I and Darth Plagueis.
     
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