Lit Can new works be published in the "Legends" universe?

If there is a legends story that I would want to see is the Jacen Solo Trilogy. That would be the kicker for me as it would lead close to Legacy. Hey, Legends or not, I still value those stories and I ain't waiting for the story group for anything. Legends still outnumber new canon.

 

It could happen if you believe continuity problems in many Legends stories can be resolved through explanation using already published Legend material. If anyone could take on every Legends continuity problem, then that would show Lucasfilm to make some time for Legends to be given a new dawn. But unless that happens, Legends would not be compatible with you if history is inconsistent in Star Wars and you need exact details as how Canon has been recently somewhat. Still, storytelling should always be enjoyed by anyone, no matter if it is Legends or Canon.

 

Never mind that it already has happened. There will be even more. I predict it will start happening after TFA is released

 

After the movies/new canon/merch surrounding Disney's empire establish themselves, I'm sure we'll see Legends titles being published. Its hard to say what form they'll take though, but they should get to it seeing as a lot of character's fates are unresolved.

 

If there is support through petitions and buying of any rereleased Legends material yeah I could see it happening. If it does Legends will just become the SW version of the Ultimate universe and honestly that would be for the best and would really mend the divide that has been caused by the EU losing its canon status. Though even still Legends probably won't get the attention it once did as Disney focuses on the New EU. Also I would give it a few years until after the movies are out and the New EU has a more established footing. In the meantime SWTOR still exists and is continued to be supported which I guess pleases me as my favorite portion of the EU was the Pre-PT stuff.

 

Why is this thread even a thing, much less one that's gone on for 30 posts? It's happening as we speak, albeit only in select categories.

 

I think the real question is about the big three: comics, video games, and novels/novellas/short stories.

Video games? That's a big 'no'. I think that LFL made a big mistake on handing the keys of Lucasarts over to EA instead of making it a 'brand' that various video game companies could develop through... but, I'm sure that EA paid well for the exclusive rights and that boat has sailed. They aren't going to do anything except the laziest, safest video games, and that are going to be wholly committed to the NEU.
Comics? That's also a big 'no', although Marvel isn't above profiting from reprints of the Dark Horse material, apparently.
The written word? That's a probable 'yes'. We've seen Pena web-publishing one of his stories (albeit one written before the changeover), and nostalgia is always profitable. And, as I've mentioned, Storygroup pretending that FFG and TOR invented their own versions of SW for the sake of appearances means that tie-in fiction can be published - although I doubt through Del Rey (which is probably a good thing).

 

I would venture a guess that any new Legends content wouldn't be published as Legends, but more like the old Infinities. That's essentially what they're doing with TOR and FFG. They exist in their own bubbles. If they publish novels that are not in continuity with the new films, they likely won't be part of a cohesive continuity.

I suppose that won't stop people from treating them as such, nor should it.

 

I'd agree, except that you don't create a category like "Legends" and not use it. They know they'll get more sales out of slapping that label on a book instead of "Infinities" or nothing - and TOR and FFG are Legends; it's just Storygroup playing semantics in order to preserve the illusion of 'no new Legends' despite the fact that I doubt that anyone really cares if what they said was true or not.

 

There's no illusion for them to preserve. Lucasfilm never actually said "no new Legends." The closest thing they said to that was

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which a lot of people obviously interpreted as "no new Legends" -- and some quite wrongly interpreted as Legends being escorted to the dustbin -- but the fact of the matter is and always has been, there's no closed door there. And even if someone did at some point actually say "no new Legends," to paraphrase and repurpose something I said in the accursed Bring Back Legends thread a while back -- it's never wise to assume a company will bind themselves everlastingly to statements like "we will never do x." The company is certainly making no such assumption.

 

So, does the KOTOR 2 Steam update count?

 

Can they? Yep. Nothing has made that impossible.

Are they? See Skywalkers by Mr. Pena, Most everything from Fantasy Flight (We're getting a K-WING!!!), and The Old Republic.

Will they? There's a huge campaign by people asking for it, which while I strongly disagree with most of their methods, I think will show Disney/LFL that there's a rabid group that will drop money on stuff with the Legend's banner, plus the undoubtedly numerous people who are not part of that group that would also buy.

You know what Disney likes? MONEY.

We're not going to see a Legend's novel in the net 5 years I doubt. But sooner or later we will.




It is also worth noting, that Heir to the Jedi, Lords of the Sith, Tarkin, A New Dwan, Kanan, Leia and Rebels all fit within the Legends universe without significant (or any) contradictions. Just because it's Canon doesn't mean you can't include it with Legends if you want to.

That's what's dictating my buying going forward.

 

The current Star Wars Official Fact File magazine seems to be taking that approach - referencing Legends events as well as TCW events for characters like Ventress and Anakin.

 

TCW is in this weird place where it's simultaneously part of the new canon and the Legends continuity, though.

 

Rebels articles are being made too. I wonder- if a Tarkin character article comes out - will it include references from the Legendsverse, and the "newcanonverse" - Tarkin, Rebels, etc?

 

For purposes of organizing at home, I'm tempted to pull all the TCW tie-ins over to the canon shelf and keep my Legends shelves "pure," but they're already too linked for that to make any sense.

 

More like it's own canon and the new canon. TCW doesn't fit flawlessly with the movies and it certainly doesn't fit with Legends clone wars.

 

I liked how those novels fit Legends-verse too. However, that trend changed (spoiler for Dark Disciple)

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Dark Disciple wiped out the entire Dark Horse Clone Wars run, literally overwriting Clone Wars Omnibus Vols. 1 through 3, because Quinlan's new story is completely incompatible with his Dark Horse Clone Wars arc.

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I don't want to take the thread on too bad of a tangent, but I hear people express that sentiment a lot here and I'd be interested to find out why folks think TCW is inconsistent with the films. Inconsistent with the Legends version of the Clone Wars in places? For sure. But in what way(s) did TCW break continuity with the films?

 

The retcons to the governmental structure of the CIS. There are other things that people cite too, but that's mostly just complaining. But there really is no way at all to reconcile the later TCW seasons portraying the big megacorps as (ostensibly) neutral parties in the Clone Wars, and the Separatist leadership as an elected parliament, with both AOTC and ROTS featuring a Separatist Council mostly made up of the megacorp heads. Heck, it can't even really be reconciled with the earlier seasons.

(Technically, I guess you could come up with some way, but it'd still be a contrived continuity patch, not a neat fit).

 

I remember in season 1, Padme is sent on a trip to open talks with the Banking Clan - in order to get her in the path of the Malevolence.

Maybe all that did was delay the talks a bit, which brought them (and some other megacorps) out of the war?

 

Gotcha. I should watch the relevant TCW episodes again (oh, darn ) but I always figured that the Separatist Council we saw in AOTC and ROTS was the "shadow government" - the real leadership of the Separatists who pulled the strings from behind the scenes - while the parliament and megacorps types were simply the public face of the CIS government (or feigned neutrality) without much actual power.

 

That always bothered me. I

 

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It might fit if Dooku, Ventress, and Vos all got mind wiped and forgot they already worked together in the comics just before the novel. Tholme also needs to return from his Clone Wars death that occurs in the novel. Quinlan needs to forget about Khaleen so he can romance Ventress too.

Ventress not knowing who Vos is in the novel is a key part of its plot. And the novel can't take place before the Dark Horse Clone Wars comics because Vos is supposed to be undercover in the comics but already meets Dooku in the novel. More importantly, Ventress is killed and buried at the end of the novel.

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Yeah, its gonna take an ungodly amount of time before the next novel comes out. TOR does a few short stories recently and wasn't an unpublished NR story recently re-released? Its not out of the question and as a few earlier posts have highlighted with quotes the door isn't closed, but I doubt we'll ever see an epic like FOTJ again.