Can someone please answer this for me re: ESB (if you know!)

In the original version of ESB, Vader says to one of his Imperial aides: "Bring my shuttle", after he loses Luke. In the SE, this is changed (rather naffly IMHO) to: "Alert my Star Destroyer to prepare for my arrival". Can anyone tell me why GL changed it for the SE? I take it the changed dialogue remains on the DVD.

 

I don't know why, but IMO it was a poor choice to change it.
The "Bring my shuttle" line was delivered so well; Vader nearly chokes the words out; you can tell he's very upset about what just happened with Luke.

 

Maybe(hopefully) they'll fix it on the DVDs. That line and Luke's girly yell need to go.

 

Sounds like at least one of your wishes will come true.

 

I actually like the new line, I don't get why people complain about it.

 

It's also worth noting that the line is in fact deliverd by James Earl Jones rather than a sound alike as is commonly believed. Ben Burtt lifted an unused line from audio recorded for A New Hope and inserted it into the Special Edition cut. The fact that it was recorded several years before and on different equipment than the dialogue used in Empire accounts for the tonal differences.

And I agree, the "Bring my shuttle!" line is far superior.

On a related note, Luke's "You're lucky you don't taste very good" line was replaced by Burtt because the alternate line we here in the S.E. "You were lucky to get out of there" was a higher quality recording. He never stopped to think that he was replacing one of the film's most loved lines.

 

Maybe(hopefully) they'll fix it on the DVDs. That line and Luke's girly yell need to go.

I'm pretty sure that whilst Luke's girly scream is gone the Bring my shuttle line is still in there...

 

I don't care about the line itself. But I don't like the way Vader's voice sounds.

 

In the original version, Vader says "Bring my shuttle" as he's walking through the landing platform door (presumably, he waited there until the shuttle arrived). Next, we saw him on his Star Destroyer, which was a bit of a jump.

A line recorded for ANH ("Alert my Star Destroyer to prepare for my arrival")--or so Ben Burtt says--was used for the SE version of the scene, which goes over the top in showing Vader walking to his shuttle, the shuttle flying toward the Destroyer, and Vader exiting the shuttle.

What they should have done was leave in "bring my shuttle" and just add in the *one* shot of the shuttle *approaching* the Executor.

 

In the original version, Vader says "Bring my shuttle" as he's walking through the landing platform door (presumably, he waited there until the shuttle arrived). Next, we saw him on his Star Destroyer, which was a bit of a jump.

How is that a "bit of a jump"? He asks for his shuttle and than he's on the SSD. Not hard to figure out how he got there. We don't have to see it.

 

I agree, the 'Bring my shuttle' line was better, but I had heard somewhere it got 'damaged' along the way (like Luke's orginal 'you're lucky you don't taste very good' to Artoo).

 

Anyone have an audio clip of the original "shuttle" line? It's been a long time since I've seen the OOT, and I don't remember how the original one sounds.

 

Ah, I always thought the removal of "You're lucky you don't taste very good" was to foreshadow that Artoo was really a transformer with a rocket mode.

It turns out that the change may have inspired Lucas to decide that Artoo has always been able to fly.

Because the original line indicates that the creature didn't want to eat him, while the SE line implies that Artoo was responsible for his escape.

 

It's been semi-confirmed (I don't know how drunk LukeJim was at the time ) that "Bring my shuttle" is NOT on the DVD.

I guess some people had a problem with Vader waiting for his shuttle, flying up to the Executor, and then getting to the bridge. Or maybe a problem understanding what was happening.

So they decided to connect the dots for these folks and show us Vader getting on the shuttle, flying up, getting off the shuttle (thanks, recycled ROTJ footage!)...and then magically traversing a good chunk of distance (docking bay to bridge on a SSD).

And as I've said before, not only did we lose the single most ticked-off line of Vader's, but Lucas (and Burtt, he's the editor for all this, right?) butchered one of John Williams' best pieces of music.

And if some of these original line recordings were damaged, why replace them with different lines? How hard would it be to get Jones or Hamill to redo those single lines?

 

Aside from incorrectness, my biggest problem with the new line is that it sounds like James Earl Jones in any other role (i.e. playing someone with normal vocal organs who's not wearing a helmet). The mechanical effect that makes him Darth Vader is totally missing, so it sounds stupid.

 

I don't understand why people complain about Luke's "girly yell".Luke is ALL about girly/whiny/sissy!
Watch ANH again,I did recently and I was blown away,I don't think he's got one line in the movie that doesn't come off like a whining sniveling little effeminate wuss.
Then he gets a little better in ESB (but in moments of trauma he reverts to "sissy-boy whiner as in when Darth Vader tells him about their relationship....you think Han Solo would've cried like that if DV had said,"I'm your father Han."...no WAY)

Then in ROTJ,he's finally grown a pair so he starts wearing black and...no more sissy/girly/whiny screaming.
See? it's perfect.

 

There is a moment in ANH when Luke doesn't sound girly/sissy/whiney:

"I want to learn the ways of the Force and become a Jedi like my father."

 

I think the "girly yell" weakens the scene. When faced with the choice of turning to the Dark Side or (possible) death with honor, he chose the latter. It shows that Luke had resigned to his fate and accepts it. The look on his face shows peace and resolve. And it shows character development from whiny wuss, to semi-competent and brash, to cool confident badass.

 

I totally agree. And I'm really happy that they removed it (so long as LukeJim was in a drunken haze at that point )

 

Can somone tell me which version I have got, It's got the alert my stardestroyer line in (which i think is ace), but it says special edition nowhere on it, also other things that were on the SE arent in there.

I'm so confused.

 

There is a moment in ANH when Luke doesn't sound girly/sissy/whiney:

There are MANY.

"I'm Luke Skywalker, I'm here to rescue you."

"I can't believe he's gone."

"How did my father die?"

"I only wish...Ben were here."

Shall I keep going?
Please don't rain all over Luke. He's my favorite character in the entire saga!

 

obviously it's a matter of opinion.All those lines sounded dorky to me.HOWEVER,thank you,I was wrong.I DO like when he says that he wants to become a Jedi like his father before him.
That's really cool actually,that resolve to become the new hope is the seed of coolness that'll ultimately reach it's fruition in ROTJ.

Must say though,when I was a kid,the ones who liked Luke best always were the ones to get beaten up....it was Han or Vader or pariah-status,lol.