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Can the SW movies ever be beat $ wise?

Discussion in 'Star Wars Saga In-Depth' started by Blue_Jedi33, Mar 31, 2007.

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  1. Blue_Jedi33

    Blue_Jedi33 Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    I was looking at boxofficemojo and the worldwide gross for all 6 movies is 4.2 Billion dollars, do you think any six movies can ever have a shot at that title?

    The reason I ask is that most movies never make it to 6, the only one in the running is spider man or harry potter, but I get the sense that they are winding these down with the next ones.

    Most movies series are triolgies so they don't get there.

    Thoughts

    Sorry if this is in the wrong forum, didn't know what other area to put it.
     
  2. sony12

    sony12 Jedi Youngling

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    If Lord of the Rings ever decided to come out with three more movies than yes.

    There are lots of other movie series that could do it if they ever decided to release as many films as Star Wars did. Spiderman would probably be another example.

    It's unfair to try to compare the total dollar amount six Star Wars movies made versus only two or three movies from other franchises.
     
  3. PerfectCell

    PerfectCell Jedi Padawan star 4

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    They can, it all depends on whether or not any franchise is willing to go to six movies. I think if LOTR or Spider-Man were willing to go for six they would certainly give SW a run for its money, moreso Spider-Man than LOTR in my estimation.
     
  4. sony12

    sony12 Jedi Youngling

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    Do they plan on making anymore Superman movies after this new one that was just released a year or two ago. I didn't think it was really that great.
     
  5. Blue_Jedi33

    Blue_Jedi33 Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Well LOTR always has The Hobbit they could make, but I think thats it.
     
  6. PerfectCell

    PerfectCell Jedi Padawan star 4

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    I have yet to see Superman Returns, it is sitting on my DVD rack along with the rest of the Ultimate Superman Collection that I won't watch until Warner sends me my two replacement discs, but yes, they are making another Superman movie. I don't know if Superman would be able to come close to SW though, simply because the franchise was screwed over so badly by III and IV that I don't know if the movie going public will ever give it the support that it once had with I and II.
     
  7. Master_Starwalker

    Master_Starwalker Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I think that Superman could pull back. I do think that if the next five movies in the Bond reboot are as good as Casino Royale they may have some staying power and possibly could rival it. I think the one with the biggest chance to pass Star Wars is Pirates of the Carribbean since I believe they've said while At World's End is the final movie of the current plot, they're considering doing more.
     
  8. Darth_Klakabush

    Darth_Klakabush Jedi Youngling star 3

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    It seems to me like the Harry Potter movies are going to beat Star Wars... With the first four each reaching near 1 billion, and 3 more on the way,it seems almost inevitable..
     
  9. KennethMorgan

    KennethMorgan Jedi Youngling star 2

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    When you consider the rising prices of movie tickets, I'd say it's pretty likely that the series will be beaten in terms of box office receipts. On the other hand, adjusting for inflation, "Gone with the Wind" is still the biggest single moneymaker of all time, and the James Bond series is the biggest moneymaking series.

    Like Ben said, it all depends on your point of view.
     
  10. Darth_Davi

    Darth_Davi Jedi Padawan star 4

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    not a chance. But, I am not going just by ticket sales. In order to really be beat, Star Wars would have to be eclipsed with ticket sales, toy sales, book sales, game sales, VHS/DVD sales, everything that is the result of the movies. Star Wars is the single largest source of merchandise income ever, I think. I don't think anything can come close to matching the Star Wars franchise in terms of sheer moneymaking power.
     
  11. PerfectCell

    PerfectCell Jedi Padawan star 4

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    It's but franchises like Spider-Man with their combined movie, comic, toy, book, video games, and apparel sales would beat or at least be qual to SW. But from a pure money making merchandise income a fair number of sports teams completely squash anything that has ever been made by the SW films.
     
  12. Darth_Davi

    Darth_Davi Jedi Padawan star 4

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    ADVANTAGE
    Film revenue (including VHS/DVD): Star Wars
    Comic revenue (including graphic novels): Spiderman
    Toy revenue:TIE This one, I suspect Star Wars, but willing to call this one a tie, as more kids will have Spiderman stuff, but far more adults will have the Star Wars stuff.
    Book revenue: Star Wars, this is probably the single greatest advantage Star Wars would have over a franchise like Spiderman
    Video games: Star Wars also completely dominates Spiderman in this catagory.
    Apparel: Star Wars. Kids will have the Spidey stuff, but its the adults that are spending the money for replica uniforms, costumes etc. Note, I am counting the unofficial costumes fans create, the logic being that without Star Wars, they wouldn't be spending the money making the costumes. Since there is no catagory you listed for misc. stuff, with the replica Lightsabers, Han Solo in Carbonite, and other Star Wars themed knick knacks, I think Star Wars would beat Spiderman at that hands down too.
     
  13. PerfectCell

    PerfectCell Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Spider-Man has been making merchandising money for years now, at least 20 years before SW ever made it's first dime in merchandising. All of those adults that have SW merchandise are dwarfed by the number of adults and people in the 60-80's that have Spider-Man merchandise.
     
  14. smibrilundun

    smibrilundun Jedi Youngling star 1

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    four series that could beat Star Wars are Harry Potter ,Spiderman, POTC and Tolkein.There are rumours that a War of the Ring trilogy set in the 2nd age might be made after The Hobbit .Harry Potter is 7 movies so they will get the 6 movies needed .Toby has said if everybody is willing to make Spiderman 4 to 6 he is and the POTC crew has said that they are thinking of making another set of movies.Indy and James bond are unlikely to either make enough money in the case of bond or enough films in the case of Indy.An outside bet is the Sherk series which seems to be making lots of money but is on a film by film satus not a planed trilogy satus.
     
  15. boxy_brown

    boxy_brown Jedi Youngling star 1

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    I don't know enough about revenue, or alot of these other franchises being talked about. But if we are including all this other stuff I think a valid question is "Will any other franchise have a fan base that can compete with Star Wars?". One must admit, the fan base for this saga is fairly obsessive in alot of respects, and is willing to buy alot of merchandise and re-re-releases etc....Even if Spiderman makes 6 movies, I can't imagine it doing that well in all the other areas mentioned above. Maybe one of the other franchises could compete, but I don't know enough about them.
     
  16. Darthgordon

    Darthgordon Jedi Youngling star 3

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    Well, by just saying the total for all six movies box office revenue that doesn't mean much. Even taking into acount all the other merchandise it doesn't mean much w/o taking into account inflation. It's really a difficult thing to guage.
     
  17. Darth_Sidious-

    Darth_Sidious- Jedi Youngling star 2

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    Unbiased Opinion:

    In terms of Box office sales, Harry Potter and Spider-Man will beat Star Wars when they've reaches 6 (7 for Potter)

    All facts:

    Star Wars has been around for 30 years this year. It was released in 1977 and has made an estimated 20 Billion in sales altogether. Harry Potter has been around for 10 years this year. It was released in 1997 and has made an estimated 10 billion in sales altogether.

    So tecnhically every decade Star Wars makes 7 Billion, while Harry Potter makes 10 Billion.

    Let's remember that hundreds of millions of Potter books have been sold, it is the highest grossing book-series of all time, and has sold more than 3x what any work of Tokien has ever done. That is on top of merchandise and many films. If we look at is this way, SW has unfortunately already been beaten.
     
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