Discussion in 'Archive: The Amphitheatre' started by Nevermind, Feb 29, 2012.
No, it most certainly does not.
Very few , if any, completely " bad " actors couldnt open the way he did in his career. I'd say he's in the top five " action film " actors of all time that put honus on acting in the action film. Its a short list of dudes i'd put him with too - Ford, Flynn, Powers Jr., Wayne, Connery, Russell, and McQueen in that mix with him.
Given all that's happened, Mel Gibson playing a really loathesome villain, would be superb casting. It's in sync with the way he's perceived by a lot of people anyway, people could hiss and boo his character while enjoying hatin' on him for his real life failings. Perfect.
Gibson's career isn't lost for lack of talent. He can be a very good actor and he is a more than competent director. What he needs to do is go into semi-retirement for a few years and come back when people are ignorant enough to half forget what he did(which was horrendous).
Gibson is a ****, but he is talented and I think the right role could bring him back. After all, Polanski's conviction for a serious crime has not stopped big names starring in his films or stopped him being awarded for them. He's talented so his movies get recognised, in the end your abilities to produce quality for Hollywood are more important for them than your private life (which really should have no impact on your work).
Villains might be a good idea, or just some voice work in animations.
He needs to do work without political or social connotations. Sometimes action films are problems with that.
David Gordon Green
Career high points: "Pineapple Express", "All The Real Girls"
Career low point: "The Sitter"
"How to fix it: You don't end up on this list if you're beyond all hope, and that's certainly not the case with the mega-talented Green. He's confounded some film critics and fans with his choices, since his early work marked him as a Malick-esque observer of small-town mores and personalities, but he's since pursued a decidedly more raucous big-studio agenda, making dirty comedies and stoner fare. His work on this season's "Eastbound & Down" shows that he has a wicked sense of timing and staging when he's got good material to work with, but do we really want to see him doing loose remakes of "Adventures In Babysitting," or do we want something more from him? All it would take is one film from this guy's heart and critics would be doing backflips again, and it's obvious from his work as a producer on things like "The Catechism Cataclysm" and "Compliance" that he's still very much a part of the indie world. Will "Suspiria" be the one, or will it be any of the other ten films he's got in development? One thing's certain? he's doing it his way, and seems uninterested in doing what's "expected" of him."
- Drew McWeeney
Instead of directing raunchy comedies based on other people's scripts, which, Pineapple Express (and Eastbound & Down), I guess) aside, isn't working too well for him, he could maybe use his indie cred to try to get funding for a mainstream drama or action movie.
Career high point: Headlining the ensemble of Ridley Scott's "Black Hawk Down"
Career low point: 2008 to the present
How to fix it: Once the "next big thing," Hartnett tried to take his career to the next level by tackling challenging roles in indie films while either missing out or turning down broader studio fare. In theory, it's not a bad strategy. Unfortunately, every choice after starring on Sony Pictures' "30 Days of Night" in 2007 has been a disaster. Now, he's just finished indie "Singularity" opposite Neve Campbell from director Roland Joffe who hasn't made a good movie in 25 years. Next up? "Dark Star Hollow" with B-Movie stars Christopher Lambert and Billy Zane. Can we suggest a segue to television Mr. Hartnett?
- Gregory Ellwood
Um, yeah, Josh Hartnett's career high was The Virgin Suicides.
...do we want it "saved"? He was hardly ever a big star anyway.
If he wanted to be a big star, opting to be in the Michael Bay failure that was Pearl Harbour was not a good career choice.
I remember reading an article when Pearl Harbor was released. It was Hartnett recounting a conversation he had with co-star Benny Affleck where Affleck told him, essentially, that with Pearl Harbor's release Hartnett's career would never be the same. Affleck counseled him about how to control his image and how, with the movie vaulting him (Hartnett) to superstar status that he needed to stay grounded, etc., etc.
Uh....well that didn't happen.
I like Hartnett. I thought he was fine in BHD. I've hated everything else he's been in. He's never really had a huge career in films, imo.
I like Hartnett, and he has been in two of my all time favorite films Sin city, Lucky Number Slevin, I thought he was good in Black Dahlia also, and I enjoyed 30 days of Night.. but still that was almost 5 years ago so...
I thought he was good in Black Dahlia. That's about it.
Back when The Virgin Suicides was released (1999? 2000?) I remember an article mentioning he was going to be in Pearl Harbor (which was going to be the next Titanic ) and Hartnett was seen as the next Brad Pitt.
As others have summed up, it seems his past career has been spent mostly being played up as "the next big thing" rather than ever actually achieving it.
Hartnett actually was better in the mess Pearl Harbor than Affleck was.
Career high points: "Knocked Up", "27 Dresses"
Career low point: "One for the Money"
"How to fix it: As we anticipated, Heigl wasn't able to breathe new life into her sinking career with this year's "One for the Money", which was almost universally panned and grossed less than $30 million worldwide. Unfortunately Heigl's greatest enemy has always been herself; at the height of her success, the actress actually had the cojones to bad-mouth "Knocked Up", the film that launched her to big-screen stardom. Now she's practically begging the producers of "Grey's Anatomy" (the writing staff of which she's also publicly denounced in the past) to write her back into the show - essentially an admission by the actress herself that the A-list bubble has finally burst. So where does she go from here? While returning to "Grey's" probably wouldn't be the worst thing in the world for her, the show doesn't have nearly the level of watercooler cachet as it once did - in other words, it's essentially a dead end at this point. Since the movie-star thing is more or less over for her (at least for now), her best bet is to make a play at critical respectability by "going indie" and stretching her range by taking on a role people wouldn't expect of her. If she doesn't have any range, of course (we aren't sure yet), a return to TV - as the star of her own series, perhaps - is probably the way to go."
- Chris Eggertsen
She does have a talent for putting people off; don't know if this one is curable.
She's relatively talented, but she's no Meg Ryan, and by by the tame Kate & Leopold hit Ryan was 40 and basically out of contention as a leading lady. Heigl would only have a couple of years left to get in her own "You Got Mail," but she's already at an age when a lot of women circle back to television. Heigl will likely find work on tv, she's beautiful, but her movie career is most likely over.
Heigl needs to pick a script where she's part of the fun instead of the one screaming in shrill tones for it all to stop. One For The Money actually could have been a small step in the right direction if it hadn't been apparently terrible (I, like the rest of the world, didn't see it).
But yeah, TV's probably her best bet at this point. I'm not convinced that viewers care about her at this point, but she still has enough name recognition in Hollywood that she could land a spot high up in the call list of a show.
It seems as though Heigl has become the female David Caruso.
I really liked knocked up, and thought she was okay in that, but haven't really seen anything else she has done... I will see her latest but she never seemed the type to be good in a action oriented role.
OH man caruso, I must be like one of the few who actually liked Jade and thought he would be a good actor for years to come though it seems his on screen ego got in the way
Career high point: Critically? "Almost Famous." Commercially? "How to Lose a Guy in 10 Days"
Career low point: "My Best Friends Girl." It gets no lower than making a romantic comedy with Dane Cook.
"How to fix it: One minute you're the Oscar nominated star of a Cameron Crowe movie and the world is seemingly at your feet. The next minute, your name has become synonymous with the kind of romantic comedies most viewers -- men in particular -- wouldn't even watch on airplanes. The first solution is to start sending "Almost Famous" to every acclaimed comedy or semi-comedy director out there and tell Woody Allen, Wes Anderson, Judd Apatow, anybody who's ever MET Judd Apatow, the Duplass Brothers, Lynn Shelton, the aforementioned Cameron Crowe... Tell them you're willing to work for peanuts in order to remind people that you used to be lovable. Some people might advise you to steer away from your strengths, but that's what led to "Nine" and to the well-intentioned "The Killer Inside Me." Remind viewers they like you and then worry about stretching as an actress, or it'll be time for a FOX sitcom within a year."
- Daniel Fienberg
The problem with Kate Hudson is that she looks just like a dozen other pretty blondes. No distinctiveness.
Well, I was going to suggest she go the soft-core porn scene route like Natalie Portman (BLACK SWAN)
or Halle Berry (MONSTER'S BALL), which would be sure to get her at least an Oscar nomination; however,
after seeing her performances in THE KILLER INSIDE ME, and the waving-the-oversized-purple-sex-toy
scene in MY BEST FRIEND'S GIRL, I believe she might be better off playing a blind nun.
Aside from Almost Famous, the only thing of note about her (that I'm aware of) is that she's Goldie Hawn's daughter.