Can we please have a lasting, stable GFFA Government?(LOTF and Legacy Spoilers)

Now that the "Legacy" comic series is being released, official information has also been released that ANOTHER Empire has taken control over the galaxy. That means most likely the GA was overthrown after LOTF. Does anyone else not find that insulting to Luke, Leia, Han, and the rest of heroes of NJO? It seems every form of democracy, they've fought decades to defend, always ends up being destroyed, and then replaced by another constitution that they have to defend yet again, only for it to be destroyed and replaced YET AGAIN. The same goes for Mon Mothma and the other RA leaders. What did they basically fight for? They pratically gave thier lives to build a new republic that only lasted alittle over 2 decades.

IMO, one of worsts mistakes NJO ever made was getting rid of the New Republic. Till this day it still makes me wonder: "So the Bantam era was all for nothing?" If Del Rey really wants to please this fan, introduce some old RA/NR veterans who want justice because they bravely fought decades for a system that can't even last close to a century before throwing in the towel and starting all over again. Come on TPTB, the "reformation of the galatic government" story is getting old.

 

But a shattered, faction-ridden galaxy is something we actually haven't really seen before, and it offers so many story possibilities.

 

Remember the French Revolution? Yeah, they had the same problem. It's not like these things can remain stable. The problem with the governments that have sprung up since the Empire was that they tried to emulate the Old Republic when it clearly didn't work. They keep trying to live in the past.

 

There's a problem with that. Most of our OR material comes from the PT- when Palpatine had begun to manipulate things. Before that, the Old Republic had kept the peace for a millenia, and had been around for 25, 000 years.


The problem with the new governments are the fact the galaxy is in the Dark Ages- it's Europe after the fall of Rome.

 

I think the galaxy may be ungovernable at its current level of technological and economic development. Keep in mind that for the vast majority of the history of the Republic, it wasn't really a "Galactic" Republic in anything but name, being largely confined to the Coreward parts of the Slice. Expansion beyond that has been very, very fast, and development communications and transportation networks haven't kept pace.

The Republic that existed between Ruusan and the Clone Wars worked for so long largely because it was very, very decentralized. No central military, a high degree of local control. Over time, as it started to exert more and more control over previously independent areas, they rebelled, culminating in the wave of minor rebellions and sectarian violence which peaked with the Clone Wars. The Emperor kind of came in and cracked the whip, but his control over the Outer Rim was tenuous and an alliance of disaffected core nobles (Mon Mothma, the Organas, etc) with rising Rimward powers (the Mon Cals and the Bothans) took him down.

Which, of course, put everything back at square one. The NR kept some aspects of Imperial policy (most notably the central military), but found itself with the same problem that the OR and the Empire had - the galaxy is just too damn big.

Not really. The Republic had essentially collapsed during the New Sith Wars era (between 2000-1000 BBY and especially between the Battles of Mirza and Ruusan). Before that it had existed for a few thousand years with periodic upheavals, crises, and civil wars, after collapsing during the Mandalorian War and the Jedi Civil War. Before that, it was really, really tiny, a regional power at best.

This idea of a Galactic Republic that kept peace in the entire Galaxy for 25,000 years is really just wishful thinking and a romanticized version of the past.

The GFFA's pretty much always been like this, if not worse.

 

Good point, but it still dosen't refute my main idea- that the Old Republic kept the peace far, far better than the governments that followed. For 1,000 years after Ruusan, how many major wars were there? How many rebellions?

After the fall of the Republic, none of the governments have kept peace for any great length of time. I'd be shocked if was more than two years after ROTS that significant Rebel activity began. As for the New Republic- never once, in its entire existence, was there peace. The GA is beginning to follow this same problem.

As for differences like OR not having a standing military- there was no need to. No major hostile powers, no Sith actively causing trouble, and an economy strong enough to not need the support of the jobs such a military creates. The situation was exactly the opposite after the fall- the Empire may have looked clean and proper, but most of the galaxy was still recovering from the Clone Wars. The fall of the Empire and the subsequent warlording did nothing to help this.

Then of course, we come to the Yuuzhan Vong War, which crushed how many worlds, displaced how many people? The GFFA will be feeling the ramifications of that at least into Legacy, if not centuries longer.

Personally, though, I think Legacy may see the rise of a new, stable, government that will endure for a comparable time to the Old Republic. This is why its coming out parallel to LOTF- so that as we read of the final collapse of post-Rebellion government, we're also seeing hope in Legacy.

What I really want to see, though, is to show us a golden age. We've never seen that before- even in Jedi Apprentice, the seeds was already being planted. Show me a galaxy at peace, stable, with a Jedi Order flourishing, both phyically and philisophically.

 

After Ruusan, people were tired enough of a millenia of war to give peace a chance.

And there seems to have been tonnage and operating radius restrictions on warships and which made it hard to take enemy worlds (A fleet of Rendili Dreadnaughts won't do much to a Core World)

The Sith were also licking their wounds, so they didn't have much time to really stir the pot, and ditto for the Mandalorians.

 

There's a problem with that. Most of our OR material comes from the PT- when Palpatine had begun to manipulate things. Before that, the Old Republic had kept the peace for a millenia, and had been around for 25, 000 years.

That doesn't mean that the Old Republic was governed well. Plenty of wars happened in those 25,000 years. Not to mention that the Old Republic in the PT (as much as I hate using this retcon) was the Republic after the Ruusan reformation. And we can see what a lovely job they did governing then.

 

The Old Republic is something of a myth - and I rather suspect that a fleet of Rendili Dreadnaughts could make a perfectly nice mess...

Personally, I'd be happy to see no Galactic government - at least, not the sort of direct state control that's been the ambition of everyone since the Taung were kicked off Coruscant...



- The Imperial Ewok

 

Yes, a fractured galaxy is better than a united one. At least it'd be easier to manage.

 

i think a GFFA with more smaller powers would be cool. maybe not every system for itself, but each sector or whatnot is mostly independent with alliances and so on. that would open up room for "big threats" that aren't galaxy wide. the problem in the GFFA is that they're like europe, somone keeps trying to unify the whole place under 1 government... it did work for a while (Rome/OR) but that doesn't mean its the only way. seperate independent states that cooperate for the most part (like modern europe with weaker EU) or possibly with 2 main factions (cold war style but w/out superpowers behind each side).

 

Call the Old Republic "mythic" if you want, but you hafta admit, it ran a lot longer and a lot smoother than the NR or the GA (from the looks of things now).

 

The Old Republic ran smoothly? When did this happen?!

 

The Old Republic did not have a centralised military? Correction, the Great Sith War and KOTOR both indicate that there was a centralised military. Only a centralised military could have fought the Mandalorians and defeat them. A hodgepodge of commanders who are more allied with their home systems would not have been able to defeat the Mandalorians.

 

Smoother. The comparative form of smooth. As in, better than the mess we have now.

Though I have to admit, I might have been a little hasty in roping the GA in with the NR.

Favorite new Jedi=Thann Mithric. Falleen pheromones+Jedi mind tricks=one cool dude.

 

You guys keep bringing this "Russan". Would somebody explain the story around them?

 

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Ruusan_reformation

 

I'm willing to bet money that moment the GFFA disintegrates, the entire galaxy will fall into in a series of bush fires the likes no one has seen before. It will make the Caamasi issue look even tame.

 

That's completely untrue. The Republic went through a number of major wars and upheavals during that period which had nothing at all to do with the Sith. There were seventeen major civil wars (the Alsakan conflicts) and a millenium of theocratic dictatorship with religious crusades and purges (the Pius Dea period). None of that had anything to do with the Sith and they were hardly "minor blips." Have you read the NEC yet? You should.

It's also worth noting that the Republic prior to the Great Hyperspace War was pretty tiny. They hadn't discovered the Hydian Way at all, and the Rimma and the CTS were barely developed. We're basically talking about the Coreward section of the Slice and that's it. It was maybe a fiftieth of the size it is now, if that.