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SWC Can You Become A Jedi If You Love War?

Discussion in 'Star Wars Community' started by Kayla Lynn Allen, Jul 5, 2014.

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  1. Kayla Lynn Allen

    Kayla Lynn Allen Jedi Youngling

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    As a new member of this community that enjoys the works of George Lucas, I wanted to post a thread of theoretical intrigue. My dear roommate Yoshihiro Shimazu and I delight in creating hypothetical debates within the Star Wars fantasy, and recently we picked a particularly interesting topic that I wished to share. My roommate, whom I lovingly call Envy, stated that if humanity lived in the realm of Star Wars that he would most likely become a Jedi. Now I of course asked him by what values does he believe his character would pose him as an exceptional person in becoming a Jedi, and his reasons truly baffled me because I believed his response contradicted the very values Jedi follow. Envy believes that since he has a warrior's heart that lives in the heart of battle, and that war is the only means of making a man of thine self, that this form of character is what truly defines a Jedi. I strongly disagreed with this ideology since it is stated nowhere in the code of Jedi that they desire to prove themselves in battle, nor do they state anywhere in their code that war is the only means of resolving conflict. I went a step further and googled Jedi Principles in which they follow and this was the result:
    1. As Jedi, we are in touch with the Living Force flowing through and around us, as well as being spiritually aware of the Force. Jedi are trained to become sensitive to the Force's energy, fluctuations, and disturbances.
    2. Jedi live and focus on the present; we must neither dwell on the past nor be overly concerned about the future. As the mind wanders, focusing on the present is a task not easily attained, for the mind is not content with the eternal present moment. As Jedi, we must release our stress and ease our minds.
    3. Jedi must maintain a clear mind; this is achieved through meditation and contemplation. Our minds can become cluttered and infected by forces and attitudes that we encounter every day, and must be purged of these unnecessary elements on a daily basis.
    4. As Jedi, we are mindful of our thoughts... we focus our thoughts on the positive. The positive energy of the force is healthy for the mind, body and spirit.
    5. As Jedi, we trust and use our feelings. We are intuitive, more so than others and with this heightened intuition we become more spiritually evolved as our minds become more harmonious with the Force and its influences.
    6. Jedi are patient. Patience is elusive but can be consciously developed over time.
    7. Jedi are mindful of the negative emotions which lead to the Dark Side: Anger, Fear, Aggression, and Hate. If we sense these emotions manifesting within ourselves, we must meditate on the Jedi Code and focus on purging these destructive emotions.
    8. Jedi understand that physical training is as important as training the mind and the spirit. We understand that all aspects of training are necessary to maintain the Jedi way of life and to perform the duties of a Jedi.
    9. Jedi protect the peace. We are warriors of peace, and are not ones to use force to resolve a conflict; it is through peace, understanding and harmony that conflicts resolve.
    10. Jedi believe in destiny and trust in the will of the Living Force. We accept the fact that what seems to be random events are not random at all, but the design of the Living Force of Creation. Each living creature has a purpose, understanding that purpose comes with a deep awareness of the Force. Even things that happen which seem negative have a purpose, though that purpose is not easy to see.
    11. Jedi must let go of obsessive attachment, both material and personal. The obsession over possessions creates the fear of loosing those possessions, which can lead to the Dark Side.
    12. Jedi believe in eternal life. We do not become obsessed in mourning those who pass. Grieve as you will but take heart, for the soul and spirit continue in the netherworld of the Living Force.
    13. Jedi use the Force only when it is necessary. We do not apply our abilities or powers to boast or be prideful. We use the Force for knowledge, and exercise wisdom and humility in doing so, for humility is a trait all Jedi must embody.
    14. We as Jedi believe that love and compassion are central to our lives. We must love each other as we love ourselves; by doing this, we envelope all life in the positive energy of the Force.
    15. Jedi are guardians of peace and justice. We believe in finding peaceful solutions to problems, gifted as we are we remain negotiators of the utmost ability. We never negotiate out of fear, but never fear to negotiate. We embrace justice, protecting and preserving the fundamental rights of all living creatures. Empathy and compassion are vital to us; it allows us to comprehend the wounds caused by injustice.
    16. We as Jedi make a commitment to, and are loyal to the Jedi cause. The ideals, philosophies, and practices of the Jedi define the belief of Jediism, and we take action on this path for self-improvement, and to help others. We are both the witnesses and protectors of the Jedi way by the practice of our Faith.
    Now whether or not these values are 100% correct I do not know, but what I do know is this is close to where it showed there was no mention of war or what defines a warrior.
     
  2. Darth_Furio

    Darth_Furio Chosen One star 8

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    I suspect you can enjoy fighting as long as you don't pick said fight.
     
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  3. Iron_lord

    Iron_lord Chosen One star 10

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    According to the RoTS novel, Vaapad requires one to: "enjoy the fight, to give oneself over to the thrill of battle, the rush of winning".
     
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  4. Lord Chazza

    Lord Chazza Jedi Master star 4

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    Interesting question but shouldn't this thread be in Saga In-Depth?

    On topic, I think your friend has to be wrong on this one. Yoda is very clear about such things:
    Similarly, Mace Windu says:
    All this stuff about warriors heart and heart of battle sounds more Mandolorian than Jedi to me.
     
  5. Bazinga'd

    Bazinga'd Saga / WNU Manager - Knights of LAJ star 7 Staff Member Manager

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    Mod: Comments that equate to becoming a pseudo-mod are not allowed. This thread can stay here for now.
     
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  6. Bardan_Jusik

    Bardan_Jusik Former Manager star 10 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    It's fine where it is at. No need for you to question where people post their thoughts.


    EDIT: What Bazinag'd said. :p

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  7. VadersLaMent

    VadersLaMent Chosen One star 10

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    You can love your skill with a lightsaber, your ability to wield the Force, the coolness of defelcting a blaster bolt, the saving of a life, the relief of killing a being because that being would have comiitted evil. But you do not have a depp love for the destruction of organs as you slice through them, or the subplanting of refugees because you love fighting. The execution of skills and preserving peace through arms is ok.
     
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