Amph "On your left." - Captain America (Brave New World)

TBH I'm not entirely sure that's even what happens, it's just the speculation I've heard from pretty much everyone in the know about the movie.

 

It's a bit odd because his glasses break in the scene, and it goes by so fast. Maybe it'll be clearer in context.

 

#TeamHashtag FTW

 

Oddly enough, that helps a lot, thank you for saying such.

#TeamTuba [doubt anyone here remembers that but still]

Random Comments Even if the glove caught it tho, shrapnel could take out the glasses, assuming they aren't bulletproof.

 

I'm excited to see Scarlet Witch and Vision in this film.

 

Putting speculation behind spoiler tag just in case:

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Baron Zemo, perhaps?[/spoiler}

 

PCCViking Appreciated!

 

I think Tony takes the bullet right in the palm. At first glance, it looks like the Lense of his glasses have a crack, but that just the sun reflecting off the top of the glasses arm.

However, bullet proof glasses would be awesome.

 

So I'm guessing Bucky scuffles with Tony at the conference that blows up and that's what makes Tony think Winter Soldier is the enemy and makes him bring the world governments down on him? Question is, was Bucky innocent or still suffering latent Hydra programming? And given Hydra made Scarlet Witch as well I wonder if they put some sleeper-agent programming in her too... making her freak out in a tense situation and cause a lot of damage would be a big help to making the governments and other heroes think they need government control, which in turn would be Hydra control.

 

Have we already discussed why Natasha would betray Cap? In the new 30 second trailer that aired during the Super Bowl, you can see that Black Widow icon Tony's team. Why would she switch?

 

She's been said to sort of agree with both sides and be a mediator but sides more with Tony and mostly wants to bring Cap in before the government does.

 

Yeah I to me I think that shot was the moment she realized her attempts at peacekeeping and mediating between Stark and Cap (literally) blew up. But if she has to pick a side (because Iron Man has to have a female member on his team for out of universe reasons) she'd go with Iron Man, if only because I doubt she believes Cap would survive a life with all the world gunning for him, he's too decent for that cloak and dagger life and she'd rather bring him in and break his trust than side with him and end up abetting his probable death as a fugitive. Especially given how she probably thinks she pushed Banner away, she's probably not in the mood to risk losing anymore friends even if she has to sacrifice the friendship to do it.

 

^ (((Crashes Cymbals)))

I don't like that they'll probably make Tony a villain again (as they did in the awful comic event) but damn it, I am a Bucky Barnes fan first and foremost so... sorry Tony. BetterbeaLOTmoreSebastianStan in this one. There's so much aweome in that shot, I didn't even notice the bullet bouncing off his glasses.

 

well if Bucky killed Tony's parent's it's going to be hard to be rooting for him against Tony

 

Bucky killed lots of people, he killed dozens of SHEILD agents in Winter Soldier. But you can't blame him as he was brainwashed. Natasha has probably killed far more people knowing what she was doing. Only real difference, other than the brainwashing, is we can assume Bucky killed Howard and Maria Stark. So we personally know one of the targets

 

It's not hard for me to be rooting for Bucky given the circumstances (and they were at odds with each other too in the comic and shortly thereafter), but I can understand if people have an issue with what his character did. However, what Tony did with Ultron isn't very good either.

The2ndQuest - thanks for the bullet info.

 

Well, this is Captain America 3 and I would expect Steve Rogers to be the good guy in the story and folks that oppose his point of view like Iron Man would be view as the antagonist. If it were Iron Man 4, would suspect Captain America would be portrayed as the rogue vigilante that Tony must stop in order to achieve world peace.




I got Tony's point of view from the Civil War comic book story line. The grieving mother really got to him. I think it kind of interesting of how MCU Iron Man went from the darling and brightest star to the less than popular than Cap in like two films (The Winter Soldier and Age of Ultron).

I still not sure how I feel about MCU Bucky. I really liked him as a foil to Cap in The Winter Soldier, but I'm not sure how his character will be now he's regaining his memories and true identity, which kind of reminds me of Jason Bourne.

I really hope Hydra is not involved in this film as I feel it would ruin the spirit and foundation of the Civil War story line which is the battle of the ideologies represented by the two main figures, Captain America and Iron man. Whereas Captain America represents basic rights and civil liberties and Iron Man represents safety and security. Civil War, like much of Marvel stories, reflect the current times; in this case security and the war on terrorism. Every time I think of this issue, I reminded of Benjamin Franklin's quote, "Those who surrender freedom for security will not have, nor do they deserve, either one."

 

Iron man 2 being terrible and Iron Man 3 being so-so didn't help.

 

I don't mind Hydra being in it. I mean it's not like in the comic the Pro-Registration side ended up just being stooges for Norman Osborn's power plays and the Skrulls. The Pro-Reg side is ALWAYS shown to be played by the people doing the horrible things the Anti-Reg side said would end up happening. So the movie just accepting that premise is fine with me.